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How to make money from a browser who sees 5 seconds into the future of any web page? [on hold]


20 years into the future - what would happen if the internet failed semi-permanently?How can I convince the internet that my magic is real?How vulnerable are the undersea internet cables to deliberate sabotage by one of the major powers (US, UK, Russia, etc)?













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You installed a strange browser you found in the deep web that works similar to any other. You soon discover something really amazing. That browser shows the state of any web page or online app 5 seconds in the future.



You make some tests.



WhatsApp and similar things you can interact with quickly become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable.



Betting pages work as expected, seeing the results 5 seconds before the rest.



Poker and similar gives you an obvious advantage but only 5 seconds doesn't grant you the victory.



E-sports don't work on browsers, so they are discarded.



You really want to became really rich. How do you do it?










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put on hold as off-topic by Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx 14 hours ago


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  • "You are asking questions about a story set in a world instead of about building a world. For more information, see Why is my question "Too Story Based" and how do I get it opened?." – Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx
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    If I understand that correctly, we are talking about an uncertain future, one that changes on a whim?
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    – DarthDonut
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    Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    20 hours ago






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    Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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    Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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    I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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    – James
    12 hours ago















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You installed a strange browser you found in the deep web that works similar to any other. You soon discover something really amazing. That browser shows the state of any web page or online app 5 seconds in the future.



You make some tests.



WhatsApp and similar things you can interact with quickly become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable.



Betting pages work as expected, seeing the results 5 seconds before the rest.



Poker and similar gives you an obvious advantage but only 5 seconds doesn't grant you the victory.



E-sports don't work on browsers, so they are discarded.



You really want to became really rich. How do you do it?










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put on hold as off-topic by Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx 14 hours ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "You are asking questions about a story set in a world instead of about building a world. For more information, see Why is my question "Too Story Based" and how do I get it opened?." – Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx
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    If I understand that correctly, we are talking about an uncertain future, one that changes on a whim?
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    – DarthDonut
    20 hours ago






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    Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    20 hours ago






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    Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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    Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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    I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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You installed a strange browser you found in the deep web that works similar to any other. You soon discover something really amazing. That browser shows the state of any web page or online app 5 seconds in the future.



You make some tests.



WhatsApp and similar things you can interact with quickly become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable.



Betting pages work as expected, seeing the results 5 seconds before the rest.



Poker and similar gives you an obvious advantage but only 5 seconds doesn't grant you the victory.



E-sports don't work on browsers, so they are discarded.



You really want to became really rich. How do you do it?










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You installed a strange browser you found in the deep web that works similar to any other. You soon discover something really amazing. That browser shows the state of any web page or online app 5 seconds in the future.



You make some tests.



WhatsApp and similar things you can interact with quickly become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable.



Betting pages work as expected, seeing the results 5 seconds before the rest.



Poker and similar gives you an obvious advantage but only 5 seconds doesn't grant you the victory.



E-sports don't work on browsers, so they are discarded.



You really want to became really rich. How do you do it?







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  • "You are asking questions about a story set in a world instead of about building a world. For more information, see Why is my question "Too Story Based" and how do I get it opened?." – Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx
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  • "You are asking questions about a story set in a world instead of about building a world. For more information, see Why is my question "Too Story Based" and how do I get it opened?." – Mołot, Renan, user535733, Frostfyre, Kepotx
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    If I understand that correctly, we are talking about an uncertain future, one that changes on a whim?
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    – DarthDonut
    20 hours ago






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    Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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    – SZCZERZO KŁY
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    Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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    Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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    I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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    If I understand that correctly, we are talking about an uncertain future, one that changes on a whim?
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    Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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    Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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    Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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    I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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If I understand that correctly, we are talking about an uncertain future, one that changes on a whim?
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Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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Betting pages and Forex. You play roulette. I think latency between "no more bets" and final number is 3 second so you have 2 to bet ludicrous amount of money. Hint: you take loan, wait for 0. Pay back loan play with income.
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Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. That being said, I tend to agree with the too story-based close reason. Helping with the rules, effects, and limitations of this browser is a worldbuilding topic; deciding what to do with it is not.
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Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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Is this browser a trial version or is it a full version that will work forever on my PC? In other words, will I always be able to see 5 seconds into the future or will it only work for a few days?
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I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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I am not sure I understand the close votes. You are asking about how a user would best abuse a system that is outlined and explained...that the OP mentions a user doesn't make this story telling...all in all it is still about the system.
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Assuming that the web browser is compatible with modern web standards...



  1. Get an account with a web-based electronic stock trading platform, for example, E*Trade or TD Ameritrade.


  2. Use your 5 seconds insight to buy low and sell high.


  3. Enjoy your filthy lucre.






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    This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
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    +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
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    There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
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    I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
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    They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
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Iterate.



Set up a webcam pointed at your computer screen with the browser open, use another computer to watch the webcam through another instance of the browser, set up another webcam and another computer with another instance of the browser.....



Each additional computer that you add to the chain will give you a further 5 seconds insight into the future.



With 60 camera/computer/browsers in a chain, you have five minutes insight into the future - easily enough to place bets on races, poker, games of chance. You'll even be able to see when suspicion is aroused about your activities sufficiently in advance to avert it.



The more money you make, the easier it'll be for you to create an even bigger machine with more layers and more "foresight" - you should then be able to see what oilfields yeald fresh reserves, where archaeological finds yeald hords of gold jewels, artifacts (and get there first, at your leisure) you'd see future technology (and the technical plans/specs on Wikipedia or future equivalent) and be able to invent it first. You could save the world by discovering the secrets of cold fusion. Find out what's in Dr Pepper.



You'd be able to find the secret of immortality (at least long life and cell repair) and graft any convenient physical and mental abilities onto yourself. You' could create a high-tech self-repairing army to protect you and do your bidding.



You'd see what political strategies would lead you to become the president/primeminister/premiere of your chosen country - then what strategies would lead to your becoming ruler of the world.



You'd discover timetravel - go back to just after when the browser was created, kill the creators.



So, to sum up.:



  • You rule the world.


  • You own it.


  • You're immortal.


  • You can predict your enemies strategies before they were even born.


  • The worlds resources are at your disposal to do with as you will - to expand off planet, or to parallel worlds (if such exist - you'd know).


  • No living person can do what you do and noone knows how you did it - you have no serious rivals and no peers.


  • You now know exactly what happened on the grassy knoll on that fatefull day and what's up with area 51.






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    Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
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    I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
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    Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
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    Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
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    This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
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Scalping



Ticket scalping is the process of buying additional tickets to resell at a profit for events. Most of these events use a platform like Ticketmaster.com and the sale only starts on a specific day and time.



Using your browser you can go to the release of a highly desired event and purchase a number of valuable tickets. Since these high profile shows sell out within days if not hours your 5 second lead time should help purchase the tickets before legitimate users. Afterwards you can resell on things like Facebook market place.



ebay



You can start ebay reselling. It is easy enough to discover the true value of a product with some googling. Make a list of the really good deals and then shortly after a product closes bidding you have 5 seconds to place the lowest possible winning bid.



After the purchase you put it back up on the internet with a better value so you can profit from the difference.






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    Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
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Just sell it.



In speed trading seconds are highly valuable. To a company engaged in that the fair market value of your browser would have to be tens if not hundreds of millions. Full five minutes of advance time on competition would be pretty much license to print money. You would have to figure out a way to filter out the effects of your own trades on the accuracy of the prediction but those guys could pull it off.






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    Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
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    HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
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    Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
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Does the browser have magic prophecy powers, or just your specific installation? Because the first would mean that it's unique, and others have given pretty good answers about how you could use that.



If you can just download it to any and as many machines as you want, you end up in a vastly different universe, and I'd like to go open up that angle a bit, because I think you need to either consider this or come up with a very good reason as to why it's not used by everyone. This thing will spread, because it's far too useful, too interesting, and too good of an opportunity to make money for it to stay secret for very long.



In that scenario, it's only a matter of time until many, most, and all other people use it and have the same advantage, resulting in nobody having a real advantage anymore, but being forced to use this browser. Race betting etc. would break down, because nobody would offer these bets if they know that betters know the winner. In stock trading, you'd end up in a similar state to reality, where people fight about microseconds again after everyone has that 5 second advantage.



I'd go so far as to say that in this scenario, you actually could not make much money with this, unless you are one of the early adopters, or you get very, very creative. I could imagine scammers using this in some convoluted "bet on a coin toss while secretly glancing at the browser that shows me a webcam image of the result" scheme, but other than that there's not much room for getting rich quick. Except for one: you have control over the browser's functionality somehow, and can charge people for using it - provided nobody can reverse engineer it and create an open source version or something.






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    Assuming that the web browser is compatible with modern web standards...



    1. Get an account with a web-based electronic stock trading platform, for example, E*Trade or TD Ameritrade.


    2. Use your 5 seconds insight to buy low and sell high.


    3. Enjoy your filthy lucre.






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      This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
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      +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
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      There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
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      I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
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      They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
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    Assuming that the web browser is compatible with modern web standards...



    1. Get an account with a web-based electronic stock trading platform, for example, E*Trade or TD Ameritrade.


    2. Use your 5 seconds insight to buy low and sell high.


    3. Enjoy your filthy lucre.






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      This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
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      +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
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      There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
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      I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
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      They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
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    1. Get an account with a web-based electronic stock trading platform, for example, E*Trade or TD Ameritrade.


    2. Use your 5 seconds insight to buy low and sell high.


    3. Enjoy your filthy lucre.






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    $endgroup$



    Assuming that the web browser is compatible with modern web standards...



    1. Get an account with a web-based electronic stock trading platform, for example, E*Trade or TD Ameritrade.


    2. Use your 5 seconds insight to buy low and sell high.


    3. Enjoy your filthy lucre.







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    share|improve this answer










    answered 20 hours ago









    AlexPAlexP

    39.9k790158




    39.9k790158







    • 6




      $begingroup$
      This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
      $endgroup$
      – John
      17 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
      $endgroup$
      – James
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
      $endgroup$
      – AmiralPatate
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      14 hours ago












    • 6




      $begingroup$
      This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
      $endgroup$
      – John
      17 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
      $endgroup$
      – James
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
      $endgroup$
      – AmiralPatate
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      14 hours ago







    6




    6




    $begingroup$
    This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
    $endgroup$
    – John
    17 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    This is easy, trading companies worry about microsecond lag times, 5 seconds will be a huge advantage.
    $endgroup$
    – John
    17 hours ago




    2




    2




    $begingroup$
    +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    +1. Also, having some sort of bot to do the trading for you would help tremendously.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago




    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
    $endgroup$
    – James
    15 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    There is no other relevant answer to this question. This is far and away the most lucrative thing to do.
    $endgroup$
    – James
    15 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
    $endgroup$
    – AmiralPatate
    15 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    I wonder though if trading authorities wouldn't get on your case for gaming the system and throw you in jail on the basis you can't possibly predict the future.
    $endgroup$
    – AmiralPatate
    15 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
    $endgroup$
    – Christian
    14 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    They would definitely investigate you very, very throughly. But as you actually have no insider knowledge or anything else illegal, they'd be hard pressed to find something to prove you guilty of any crime.
    $endgroup$
    – Christian
    14 hours ago











    32












    $begingroup$

    Iterate.



    Set up a webcam pointed at your computer screen with the browser open, use another computer to watch the webcam through another instance of the browser, set up another webcam and another computer with another instance of the browser.....



    Each additional computer that you add to the chain will give you a further 5 seconds insight into the future.



    With 60 camera/computer/browsers in a chain, you have five minutes insight into the future - easily enough to place bets on races, poker, games of chance. You'll even be able to see when suspicion is aroused about your activities sufficiently in advance to avert it.



    The more money you make, the easier it'll be for you to create an even bigger machine with more layers and more "foresight" - you should then be able to see what oilfields yeald fresh reserves, where archaeological finds yeald hords of gold jewels, artifacts (and get there first, at your leisure) you'd see future technology (and the technical plans/specs on Wikipedia or future equivalent) and be able to invent it first. You could save the world by discovering the secrets of cold fusion. Find out what's in Dr Pepper.



    You'd be able to find the secret of immortality (at least long life and cell repair) and graft any convenient physical and mental abilities onto yourself. You' could create a high-tech self-repairing army to protect you and do your bidding.



    You'd see what political strategies would lead you to become the president/primeminister/premiere of your chosen country - then what strategies would lead to your becoming ruler of the world.



    You'd discover timetravel - go back to just after when the browser was created, kill the creators.



    So, to sum up.:



    • You rule the world.


    • You own it.


    • You're immortal.


    • You can predict your enemies strategies before they were even born.


    • The worlds resources are at your disposal to do with as you will - to expand off planet, or to parallel worlds (if such exist - you'd know).


    • No living person can do what you do and noone knows how you did it - you have no serious rivals and no peers.


    • You now know exactly what happened on the grassy knoll on that fatefull day and what's up with area 51.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$








    • 14




      $begingroup$
      Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
      $endgroup$
      – Joe Bloggs
      17 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
      $endgroup$
      – Beska
      16 hours ago






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
      $endgroup$
      – JMac
      16 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      16 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
      $endgroup$
      – Captain Man
      16 hours ago















    32












    $begingroup$

    Iterate.



    Set up a webcam pointed at your computer screen with the browser open, use another computer to watch the webcam through another instance of the browser, set up another webcam and another computer with another instance of the browser.....



    Each additional computer that you add to the chain will give you a further 5 seconds insight into the future.



    With 60 camera/computer/browsers in a chain, you have five minutes insight into the future - easily enough to place bets on races, poker, games of chance. You'll even be able to see when suspicion is aroused about your activities sufficiently in advance to avert it.



    The more money you make, the easier it'll be for you to create an even bigger machine with more layers and more "foresight" - you should then be able to see what oilfields yeald fresh reserves, where archaeological finds yeald hords of gold jewels, artifacts (and get there first, at your leisure) you'd see future technology (and the technical plans/specs on Wikipedia or future equivalent) and be able to invent it first. You could save the world by discovering the secrets of cold fusion. Find out what's in Dr Pepper.



    You'd be able to find the secret of immortality (at least long life and cell repair) and graft any convenient physical and mental abilities onto yourself. You' could create a high-tech self-repairing army to protect you and do your bidding.



    You'd see what political strategies would lead you to become the president/primeminister/premiere of your chosen country - then what strategies would lead to your becoming ruler of the world.



    You'd discover timetravel - go back to just after when the browser was created, kill the creators.



    So, to sum up.:



    • You rule the world.


    • You own it.


    • You're immortal.


    • You can predict your enemies strategies before they were even born.


    • The worlds resources are at your disposal to do with as you will - to expand off planet, or to parallel worlds (if such exist - you'd know).


    • No living person can do what you do and noone knows how you did it - you have no serious rivals and no peers.


    • You now know exactly what happened on the grassy knoll on that fatefull day and what's up with area 51.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$








    • 14




      $begingroup$
      Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
      $endgroup$
      – Joe Bloggs
      17 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
      $endgroup$
      – Beska
      16 hours ago






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
      $endgroup$
      – JMac
      16 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      16 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
      $endgroup$
      – Captain Man
      16 hours ago













    32












    32








    32





    $begingroup$

    Iterate.



    Set up a webcam pointed at your computer screen with the browser open, use another computer to watch the webcam through another instance of the browser, set up another webcam and another computer with another instance of the browser.....



    Each additional computer that you add to the chain will give you a further 5 seconds insight into the future.



    With 60 camera/computer/browsers in a chain, you have five minutes insight into the future - easily enough to place bets on races, poker, games of chance. You'll even be able to see when suspicion is aroused about your activities sufficiently in advance to avert it.



    The more money you make, the easier it'll be for you to create an even bigger machine with more layers and more "foresight" - you should then be able to see what oilfields yeald fresh reserves, where archaeological finds yeald hords of gold jewels, artifacts (and get there first, at your leisure) you'd see future technology (and the technical plans/specs on Wikipedia or future equivalent) and be able to invent it first. You could save the world by discovering the secrets of cold fusion. Find out what's in Dr Pepper.



    You'd be able to find the secret of immortality (at least long life and cell repair) and graft any convenient physical and mental abilities onto yourself. You' could create a high-tech self-repairing army to protect you and do your bidding.



    You'd see what political strategies would lead you to become the president/primeminister/premiere of your chosen country - then what strategies would lead to your becoming ruler of the world.



    You'd discover timetravel - go back to just after when the browser was created, kill the creators.



    So, to sum up.:



    • You rule the world.


    • You own it.


    • You're immortal.


    • You can predict your enemies strategies before they were even born.


    • The worlds resources are at your disposal to do with as you will - to expand off planet, or to parallel worlds (if such exist - you'd know).


    • No living person can do what you do and noone knows how you did it - you have no serious rivals and no peers.


    • You now know exactly what happened on the grassy knoll on that fatefull day and what's up with area 51.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    Iterate.



    Set up a webcam pointed at your computer screen with the browser open, use another computer to watch the webcam through another instance of the browser, set up another webcam and another computer with another instance of the browser.....



    Each additional computer that you add to the chain will give you a further 5 seconds insight into the future.



    With 60 camera/computer/browsers in a chain, you have five minutes insight into the future - easily enough to place bets on races, poker, games of chance. You'll even be able to see when suspicion is aroused about your activities sufficiently in advance to avert it.



    The more money you make, the easier it'll be for you to create an even bigger machine with more layers and more "foresight" - you should then be able to see what oilfields yeald fresh reserves, where archaeological finds yeald hords of gold jewels, artifacts (and get there first, at your leisure) you'd see future technology (and the technical plans/specs on Wikipedia or future equivalent) and be able to invent it first. You could save the world by discovering the secrets of cold fusion. Find out what's in Dr Pepper.



    You'd be able to find the secret of immortality (at least long life and cell repair) and graft any convenient physical and mental abilities onto yourself. You' could create a high-tech self-repairing army to protect you and do your bidding.



    You'd see what political strategies would lead you to become the president/primeminister/premiere of your chosen country - then what strategies would lead to your becoming ruler of the world.



    You'd discover timetravel - go back to just after when the browser was created, kill the creators.



    So, to sum up.:



    • You rule the world.


    • You own it.


    • You're immortal.


    • You can predict your enemies strategies before they were even born.


    • The worlds resources are at your disposal to do with as you will - to expand off planet, or to parallel worlds (if such exist - you'd know).


    • No living person can do what you do and noone knows how you did it - you have no serious rivals and no peers.


    • You now know exactly what happened on the grassy knoll on that fatefull day and what's up with area 51.







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer










    answered 18 hours ago









    AgrajagAgrajag

    5,5251041




    5,5251041







    • 14




      $begingroup$
      Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
      $endgroup$
      – Joe Bloggs
      17 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
      $endgroup$
      – Beska
      16 hours ago






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
      $endgroup$
      – JMac
      16 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      16 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
      $endgroup$
      – Captain Man
      16 hours ago












    • 14




      $begingroup$
      Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
      $endgroup$
      – Joe Bloggs
      17 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
      $endgroup$
      – Beska
      16 hours ago






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
      $endgroup$
      – JMac
      16 hours ago






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
      $endgroup$
      – Christian
      16 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
      $endgroup$
      – Captain Man
      16 hours ago







    14




    14




    $begingroup$
    Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
    $endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    17 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Why even use a webcam? Write a website that calls the browser in a freshly spooled up VM and uses it to call itself. Boom. Instant recursion to any depth of future.
    $endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    17 hours ago




    3




    3




    $begingroup$
    I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
    $endgroup$
    – Beska
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    I like this. The obvious (stock market) answer is also obvious in terms of effect...whereas this opens up a whole world of crazy possibility. (See "Primer")
    $endgroup$
    – Beska
    16 hours ago




    4




    4




    $begingroup$
    Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
    $endgroup$
    – JMac
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Would this work under the system provided? Based on OP's statement in the question "WhatsApp and similar things you can interact fast become a mess, changing constantly as soon as you change your mind while you read your future responses or try to write. It's practically unusable." Wouldn't this be like a far worse version of that? The act of changing your decisions based on 5 minutes in advance would change the times inbetween, so the goal you were aiming for 5 minutes down the line could be completely butterfly-effected away, since the future isn't fixed in this world.
    $endgroup$
    – JMac
    16 hours ago




    2




    2




    $begingroup$
    Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
    $endgroup$
    – Christian
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Depends highly on the goal. The obvious betting stuff would still work, because the winner of a race would not change because of your betting behaviour, but the stock market might if you suddenly buy ALL OF THE SHARES. But even having information about "what if" would still be a huge advantage in basically any circumstance. You might have to learn to "read" it though, i.e. figuring out which outcomes can change and why and what they might be replaced with. Or how you could manipulate the browser into showing you a specific scenario with as little noise as possible.
    $endgroup$
    – Christian
    16 hours ago




    3




    3




    $begingroup$
    This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
    $endgroup$
    – Captain Man
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    This is clever but I feel like it goes against the spirit of the question. I feel like the fun of it is to only have 5 seconds, not to try and break OP's scenario.
    $endgroup$
    – Captain Man
    16 hours ago











    2












    $begingroup$

    Scalping



    Ticket scalping is the process of buying additional tickets to resell at a profit for events. Most of these events use a platform like Ticketmaster.com and the sale only starts on a specific day and time.



    Using your browser you can go to the release of a highly desired event and purchase a number of valuable tickets. Since these high profile shows sell out within days if not hours your 5 second lead time should help purchase the tickets before legitimate users. Afterwards you can resell on things like Facebook market place.



    ebay



    You can start ebay reselling. It is easy enough to discover the true value of a product with some googling. Make a list of the really good deals and then shortly after a product closes bidding you have 5 seconds to place the lowest possible winning bid.



    After the purchase you put it back up on the internet with a better value so you can profit from the difference.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago















    2












    $begingroup$

    Scalping



    Ticket scalping is the process of buying additional tickets to resell at a profit for events. Most of these events use a platform like Ticketmaster.com and the sale only starts on a specific day and time.



    Using your browser you can go to the release of a highly desired event and purchase a number of valuable tickets. Since these high profile shows sell out within days if not hours your 5 second lead time should help purchase the tickets before legitimate users. Afterwards you can resell on things like Facebook market place.



    ebay



    You can start ebay reselling. It is easy enough to discover the true value of a product with some googling. Make a list of the really good deals and then shortly after a product closes bidding you have 5 seconds to place the lowest possible winning bid.



    After the purchase you put it back up on the internet with a better value so you can profit from the difference.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago













    2












    2








    2





    $begingroup$

    Scalping



    Ticket scalping is the process of buying additional tickets to resell at a profit for events. Most of these events use a platform like Ticketmaster.com and the sale only starts on a specific day and time.



    Using your browser you can go to the release of a highly desired event and purchase a number of valuable tickets. Since these high profile shows sell out within days if not hours your 5 second lead time should help purchase the tickets before legitimate users. Afterwards you can resell on things like Facebook market place.



    ebay



    You can start ebay reselling. It is easy enough to discover the true value of a product with some googling. Make a list of the really good deals and then shortly after a product closes bidding you have 5 seconds to place the lowest possible winning bid.



    After the purchase you put it back up on the internet with a better value so you can profit from the difference.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    Scalping



    Ticket scalping is the process of buying additional tickets to resell at a profit for events. Most of these events use a platform like Ticketmaster.com and the sale only starts on a specific day and time.



    Using your browser you can go to the release of a highly desired event and purchase a number of valuable tickets. Since these high profile shows sell out within days if not hours your 5 second lead time should help purchase the tickets before legitimate users. Afterwards you can resell on things like Facebook market place.



    ebay



    You can start ebay reselling. It is easy enough to discover the true value of a product with some googling. Make a list of the really good deals and then shortly after a product closes bidding you have 5 seconds to place the lowest possible winning bid.



    After the purchase you put it back up on the internet with a better value so you can profit from the difference.







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer










    answered 16 hours ago









    ReedReed

    2,200415




    2,200415







    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago












    • 2




      $begingroup$
      Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago







    2




    2




    $begingroup$
    Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Wouldn't ticket selling platforms get suspicious if someone bought out the VIP section 5 seconds before the tickets went on sale?
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago











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    Just sell it.



    In speed trading seconds are highly valuable. To a company engaged in that the fair market value of your browser would have to be tens if not hundreds of millions. Full five minutes of advance time on competition would be pretty much license to print money. You would have to figure out a way to filter out the effects of your own trades on the accuracy of the prediction but those guys could pull it off.






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      $begingroup$
      Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
      $endgroup$
      – David Rice
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
      $endgroup$
      – Ville Niemi
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      14 hours ago















    0












    $begingroup$

    Just sell it.



    In speed trading seconds are highly valuable. To a company engaged in that the fair market value of your browser would have to be tens if not hundreds of millions. Full five minutes of advance time on competition would be pretty much license to print money. You would have to figure out a way to filter out the effects of your own trades on the accuracy of the prediction but those guys could pull it off.






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    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
      $endgroup$
      – David Rice
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
      $endgroup$
      – Ville Niemi
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      14 hours ago













    0












    0








    0





    $begingroup$

    Just sell it.



    In speed trading seconds are highly valuable. To a company engaged in that the fair market value of your browser would have to be tens if not hundreds of millions. Full five minutes of advance time on competition would be pretty much license to print money. You would have to figure out a way to filter out the effects of your own trades on the accuracy of the prediction but those guys could pull it off.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    Just sell it.



    In speed trading seconds are highly valuable. To a company engaged in that the fair market value of your browser would have to be tens if not hundreds of millions. Full five minutes of advance time on competition would be pretty much license to print money. You would have to figure out a way to filter out the effects of your own trades on the accuracy of the prediction but those guys could pull it off.







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    Ville NiemiVille Niemi

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    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
      $endgroup$
      – David Rice
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
      $endgroup$
      – Ville Niemi
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      14 hours ago












    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
      $endgroup$
      – Alexandre Aubrey
      16 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
      $endgroup$
      – David Rice
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
      $endgroup$
      – Ville Niemi
      15 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      14 hours ago







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    1




    $begingroup$
    Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Well, yes, but that doesn't make for a very interesting story...
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Aubrey
    16 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
    $endgroup$
    – David Rice
    15 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    HFT wouldn't be impacted by a browser, because the browser's latency is far too high. Regular speed trading (i.e. trading that's more than a second long) would be much more impacted.
    $endgroup$
    – David Rice
    15 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
    $endgroup$
    – Ville Niemi
    15 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    @DavidRice Yes, I couldn't remember the correct name and just used what Google showed up, guess that isn't really a good way to pick words.
    $endgroup$
    – Ville Niemi
    15 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
    $endgroup$
    – a CVn
    14 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Well, I understand that high-frequency traders pay huge amounts of money to get their equipment placed as close to the stock trading platform servers as possible, to reduce transmission delays. If you can get the same result by placing your equipment anywhere in the world and communicating via a couple of geosynchronous satellite hops for all transmission delay cares, that alone could save some serious money...
    $endgroup$
    – a CVn
    14 hours ago











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    Does the browser have magic prophecy powers, or just your specific installation? Because the first would mean that it's unique, and others have given pretty good answers about how you could use that.



    If you can just download it to any and as many machines as you want, you end up in a vastly different universe, and I'd like to go open up that angle a bit, because I think you need to either consider this or come up with a very good reason as to why it's not used by everyone. This thing will spread, because it's far too useful, too interesting, and too good of an opportunity to make money for it to stay secret for very long.



    In that scenario, it's only a matter of time until many, most, and all other people use it and have the same advantage, resulting in nobody having a real advantage anymore, but being forced to use this browser. Race betting etc. would break down, because nobody would offer these bets if they know that betters know the winner. In stock trading, you'd end up in a similar state to reality, where people fight about microseconds again after everyone has that 5 second advantage.



    I'd go so far as to say that in this scenario, you actually could not make much money with this, unless you are one of the early adopters, or you get very, very creative. I could imagine scammers using this in some convoluted "bet on a coin toss while secretly glancing at the browser that shows me a webcam image of the result" scheme, but other than that there's not much room for getting rich quick. Except for one: you have control over the browser's functionality somehow, and can charge people for using it - provided nobody can reverse engineer it and create an open source version or something.






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      0












      $begingroup$

      Does the browser have magic prophecy powers, or just your specific installation? Because the first would mean that it's unique, and others have given pretty good answers about how you could use that.



      If you can just download it to any and as many machines as you want, you end up in a vastly different universe, and I'd like to go open up that angle a bit, because I think you need to either consider this or come up with a very good reason as to why it's not used by everyone. This thing will spread, because it's far too useful, too interesting, and too good of an opportunity to make money for it to stay secret for very long.



      In that scenario, it's only a matter of time until many, most, and all other people use it and have the same advantage, resulting in nobody having a real advantage anymore, but being forced to use this browser. Race betting etc. would break down, because nobody would offer these bets if they know that betters know the winner. In stock trading, you'd end up in a similar state to reality, where people fight about microseconds again after everyone has that 5 second advantage.



      I'd go so far as to say that in this scenario, you actually could not make much money with this, unless you are one of the early adopters, or you get very, very creative. I could imagine scammers using this in some convoluted "bet on a coin toss while secretly glancing at the browser that shows me a webcam image of the result" scheme, but other than that there's not much room for getting rich quick. Except for one: you have control over the browser's functionality somehow, and can charge people for using it - provided nobody can reverse engineer it and create an open source version or something.






      share|improve this answer









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        0












        0








        0





        $begingroup$

        Does the browser have magic prophecy powers, or just your specific installation? Because the first would mean that it's unique, and others have given pretty good answers about how you could use that.



        If you can just download it to any and as many machines as you want, you end up in a vastly different universe, and I'd like to go open up that angle a bit, because I think you need to either consider this or come up with a very good reason as to why it's not used by everyone. This thing will spread, because it's far too useful, too interesting, and too good of an opportunity to make money for it to stay secret for very long.



        In that scenario, it's only a matter of time until many, most, and all other people use it and have the same advantage, resulting in nobody having a real advantage anymore, but being forced to use this browser. Race betting etc. would break down, because nobody would offer these bets if they know that betters know the winner. In stock trading, you'd end up in a similar state to reality, where people fight about microseconds again after everyone has that 5 second advantage.



        I'd go so far as to say that in this scenario, you actually could not make much money with this, unless you are one of the early adopters, or you get very, very creative. I could imagine scammers using this in some convoluted "bet on a coin toss while secretly glancing at the browser that shows me a webcam image of the result" scheme, but other than that there's not much room for getting rich quick. Except for one: you have control over the browser's functionality somehow, and can charge people for using it - provided nobody can reverse engineer it and create an open source version or something.






        share|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Does the browser have magic prophecy powers, or just your specific installation? Because the first would mean that it's unique, and others have given pretty good answers about how you could use that.



        If you can just download it to any and as many machines as you want, you end up in a vastly different universe, and I'd like to go open up that angle a bit, because I think you need to either consider this or come up with a very good reason as to why it's not used by everyone. This thing will spread, because it's far too useful, too interesting, and too good of an opportunity to make money for it to stay secret for very long.



        In that scenario, it's only a matter of time until many, most, and all other people use it and have the same advantage, resulting in nobody having a real advantage anymore, but being forced to use this browser. Race betting etc. would break down, because nobody would offer these bets if they know that betters know the winner. In stock trading, you'd end up in a similar state to reality, where people fight about microseconds again after everyone has that 5 second advantage.



        I'd go so far as to say that in this scenario, you actually could not make much money with this, unless you are one of the early adopters, or you get very, very creative. I could imagine scammers using this in some convoluted "bet on a coin toss while secretly glancing at the browser that shows me a webcam image of the result" scheme, but other than that there's not much room for getting rich quick. Except for one: you have control over the browser's functionality somehow, and can charge people for using it - provided nobody can reverse engineer it and create an open source version or something.







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