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Perfect 4th is dissonant?


“The intervals considered dissonant have changed since the 'Middle Ages'”; How so?Consonance/Dissonance of 5th according to the explanation of 4thIs there a known point in history where dissonance became acceptable?Is there a name for this phenomenon in the circle of fifths?“Tritone” intervals in n-tone equal temperamentWhy is a major second not called a perfect second?Dissonant notes extremely panned - what is that I hear?Why the specific pattern of white keys on a standard piano?“The intervals considered dissonant have changed since the 'Middle Ages'”; How so?Why is the hexatonic scale that can be derived via a chain of perfect fifths so little-known?Close transposition but want to avoid dissonanceHow to properly unresolve melodies to achieve dissonance and darkness in music













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Why is the perfect fourth dissonant in some cases when it does not sound dissonant? When I play it in closed position, it does not sound dissonant at all. When I play it as a compound interval, I would kind of agree an extremely excessively tiny bit. Why is it considered a dissonance sometimes when it actually does not?










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Why is the perfect fourth dissonant in some cases when it does not sound dissonant? When I play it in closed position, it does not sound dissonant at all. When I play it as a compound interval, I would kind of agree an extremely excessively tiny bit. Why is it considered a dissonance sometimes when it actually does not?










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Why is the perfect fourth dissonant in some cases when it does not sound dissonant? When I play it in closed position, it does not sound dissonant at all. When I play it as a compound interval, I would kind of agree an extremely excessively tiny bit. Why is it considered a dissonance sometimes when it actually does not?










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Why is the perfect fourth dissonant in some cases when it does not sound dissonant? When I play it in closed position, it does not sound dissonant at all. When I play it as a compound interval, I would kind of agree an extremely excessively tiny bit. Why is it considered a dissonance sometimes when it actually does not?







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  • This might have the answer you want: music.stackexchange.com/questions/64984/…

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  • Highly related: music.stackexchange.com/questions/67061/…

    – Dom
    20 hours ago











  • It will depend what instrument/tuning it gets played on. Give us a clue at least.

    – Tim
    19 hours ago

















  • This might have the answer you want: music.stackexchange.com/questions/64984/…

    – Mirlan
    20 hours ago











  • Highly related: music.stackexchange.com/questions/67061/…

    – Dom
    20 hours ago











  • It will depend what instrument/tuning it gets played on. Give us a clue at least.

    – Tim
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This might have the answer you want: music.stackexchange.com/questions/64984/…

– Mirlan
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This might have the answer you want: music.stackexchange.com/questions/64984/…

– Mirlan
20 hours ago













Highly related: music.stackexchange.com/questions/67061/…

– Dom
20 hours ago





Highly related: music.stackexchange.com/questions/67061/…

– Dom
20 hours ago













It will depend what instrument/tuning it gets played on. Give us a clue at least.

– Tim
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It will depend what instrument/tuning it gets played on. Give us a clue at least.

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Dissonance has no universal definition but depends on style and context.



For example, the perfect fourth is a dissonance in the context of species counterpoint. Whether it sounds pleasant, subjectively, is irrelevant: in that domain, it behaves as a dissonance, that must be resolved through falling by step. Again the everyday definition of dissonance is not involved here. In this context, the word dissonant indicates a tension function: the music cannot stop on this note, it must resolve according to the rules of the style.






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    The consonance of the Perfect Fourth, like all intervals, depends on context. In this video, there's a great example of perfect fourths sounding really dissonant.






    Also, certain styles of music treat it different ways. Consonance and dissonance are largely context and culture related in nature, and though people have attempted to quantify them, they really can't be pinned down, other than the ubiquitous "it sounds like...".






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      For example, the perfect fourth is a dissonance in the context of species counterpoint. Whether it sounds pleasant, subjectively, is irrelevant: in that domain, it behaves as a dissonance, that must be resolved through falling by step. Again the everyday definition of dissonance is not involved here. In this context, the word dissonant indicates a tension function: the music cannot stop on this note, it must resolve according to the rules of the style.






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        Dissonance has no universal definition but depends on style and context.



        For example, the perfect fourth is a dissonance in the context of species counterpoint. Whether it sounds pleasant, subjectively, is irrelevant: in that domain, it behaves as a dissonance, that must be resolved through falling by step. Again the everyday definition of dissonance is not involved here. In this context, the word dissonant indicates a tension function: the music cannot stop on this note, it must resolve according to the rules of the style.






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          Dissonance has no universal definition but depends on style and context.



          For example, the perfect fourth is a dissonance in the context of species counterpoint. Whether it sounds pleasant, subjectively, is irrelevant: in that domain, it behaves as a dissonance, that must be resolved through falling by step. Again the everyday definition of dissonance is not involved here. In this context, the word dissonant indicates a tension function: the music cannot stop on this note, it must resolve according to the rules of the style.






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          Dissonance has no universal definition but depends on style and context.



          For example, the perfect fourth is a dissonance in the context of species counterpoint. Whether it sounds pleasant, subjectively, is irrelevant: in that domain, it behaves as a dissonance, that must be resolved through falling by step. Again the everyday definition of dissonance is not involved here. In this context, the word dissonant indicates a tension function: the music cannot stop on this note, it must resolve according to the rules of the style.







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              The consonance of the Perfect Fourth, like all intervals, depends on context. In this video, there's a great example of perfect fourths sounding really dissonant.






              Also, certain styles of music treat it different ways. Consonance and dissonance are largely context and culture related in nature, and though people have attempted to quantify them, they really can't be pinned down, other than the ubiquitous "it sounds like...".






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                The consonance of the Perfect Fourth, like all intervals, depends on context. In this video, there's a great example of perfect fourths sounding really dissonant.






                Also, certain styles of music treat it different ways. Consonance and dissonance are largely context and culture related in nature, and though people have attempted to quantify them, they really can't be pinned down, other than the ubiquitous "it sounds like...".






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                  The consonance of the Perfect Fourth, like all intervals, depends on context. In this video, there's a great example of perfect fourths sounding really dissonant.






                  Also, certain styles of music treat it different ways. Consonance and dissonance are largely context and culture related in nature, and though people have attempted to quantify them, they really can't be pinned down, other than the ubiquitous "it sounds like...".






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                  The consonance of the Perfect Fourth, like all intervals, depends on context. In this video, there's a great example of perfect fourths sounding really dissonant.






                  Also, certain styles of music treat it different ways. Consonance and dissonance are largely context and culture related in nature, and though people have attempted to quantify them, they really can't be pinned down, other than the ubiquitous "it sounds like...".















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