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Working with people that have different views in geopolitics
Under what circumstances is it acceptable to use a different (natural) language with colleagues who speak it instead of the dominant one?3 years working in China… without speaking Mandarin and working with an outdated tech, time to leave for a consulting position?Maintaining relationships with coworkers when working in a politically unpopular departmentGetting along with a possibly passive-aggressive coworker because of different political beliefsWorking in IT in an organisation that dishes propaganda negative to youDealing with a colleague that talks too muchWorking with a Difficult Coworker and an Unhelpful BossHow to handle a political situation on a call with lots of management people who can get easily confused?How do I have a conversation about stress with my manager when he is the cause?How to point out to random coworker that they use speech patterns associated with negative stereotypes
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Our company outsources a lot of ODM and some OEM design with companies in China (and sometimes Taiwan). The views of China's recognition of Taiwan as a sovereign state is different than many Western countries including mine (the United States). We also have an office in Taiwan that goes to China from time to time as a "diplomat" and they discuss our goals in the manufacturing process.
Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe? The Chinese call Taiwan as the "Republic of China" or "Taiwan, China" but we simply call them "Taiwan", implying that they have independence from mainland China.
politics conversation china
asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
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Our company outsources a lot of ODM and some OEM design with companies in China (and sometimes Taiwan). The views of China's recognition of Taiwan as a sovereign state is different than many Western countries including mine (the United States). We also have an office in Taiwan that goes to China from time to time as a "diplomat" and they discuss our goals in the manufacturing process.
Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe? The Chinese call Taiwan as the "Republic of China" or "Taiwan, China" but we simply call them "Taiwan", implying that they have independence from mainland China.
politics conversation china
asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
24336
1
Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
1
As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
8
@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
8
Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
2
Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago
|
show 6 more comments
Our company outsources a lot of ODM and some OEM design with companies in China (and sometimes Taiwan). The views of China's recognition of Taiwan as a sovereign state is different than many Western countries including mine (the United States). We also have an office in Taiwan that goes to China from time to time as a "diplomat" and they discuss our goals in the manufacturing process.
Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe? The Chinese call Taiwan as the "Republic of China" or "Taiwan, China" but we simply call them "Taiwan", implying that they have independence from mainland China.
politics conversation china
asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
24336
Our company outsources a lot of ODM and some OEM design with companies in China (and sometimes Taiwan). The views of China's recognition of Taiwan as a sovereign state is different than many Western countries including mine (the United States). We also have an office in Taiwan that goes to China from time to time as a "diplomat" and they discuss our goals in the manufacturing process.
Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe? The Chinese call Taiwan as the "Republic of China" or "Taiwan, China" but we simply call them "Taiwan", implying that they have independence from mainland China.
politics conversation china
politics conversation china
asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
24336
asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
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asked Apr 3 at 15:30
KingDukenKingDuken
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KingDukenKingDuken
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Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
1
As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
8
@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
8
Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
2
Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago
|
show 6 more comments
1
Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
1
As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
8
@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
8
Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
2
Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago
1
1
Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
1
1
As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
8
8
@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
8
8
Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
2
2
Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago
Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago
|
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As you've found, Taiwan is a VERY sensitive subject for China. The situation is both political and ethnic for the Chinese mainland, and very complicated.
If you want to avoid the situation entirely, refer to your office in Taiwan by the name of the location within Taiwan, and don't refer to the nation at all. That way, you avoid offending both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
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So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
add a comment |
Dissenting opinion to the top voted answer from Richard U
I have never found this to be a problem at all.
Many of the larger Chinese Manufacturing companies such as Foxconn are actually headquartered in Taiwan and a lot the engineering and senior management staff is from Taiwan and travels back and forth a lot.
So if you sit in a meeting room and ask "hey, what are you doing on the weekend", it's perfectly normal to get the answer "I'm going home to Taiwan".
Taiwan is talked about frequently and I have never heard anyone (Chinese or otherwise) refer to it other than simply "Taiwan".
edited Apr 4 at 2:45
Richard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 21:17
HilmarHilmar
30.7k86890
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I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
– corsiKa
Apr 4 at 4:21
add a comment |
I've worked, and work, constantly with Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese. It's not a problem unless you, or they, want to make it a problem.
Calling it Taiwan is absolutely fine since they'll take it however they wanted it. Maybe Taiwan (as a country), or Taiwan (as People's Republic of China, Taiwan Province). No one refers to them as "name province".
answered Apr 4 at 3:30
MalisbadMalisbad
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Noteworthy is that, in my experiences dealing with Chinese-nationals (in Canada, my locale), most of them do not care if I say "Taiwan", and usually they will themselves refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan" when speaking in English (I don't know what they say in Chinese to each other because I don't speak Chinese). If you are dealing with Chinese individuals and not the Chinese government, it's probably not an issue to refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan"; as with most dictatorships or dictatorship-esque countries (of which China is one), the opinions of the populace tend to be very opposite the official positions of the leadership.
There's nothing wrong with saying "Taipei" as suggested in Richard U's answer; I'm simply making note that this might not be nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.
answered Apr 3 at 20:06
Ertai87Ertai87
12.7k41635
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe?
Taiwan is an independent country, with it's own army and president. It's not part of China. It's as ridiculous as saying the independent Hong Kong is part of China.
People who are offended for the obvious facts are not very intelligent, you need to be professional and avoid as much contact with them as possible. Don't ask for troubles, but please also don't back down from the history.
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?
– KingDuken
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As you've found, Taiwan is a VERY sensitive subject for China. The situation is both political and ethnic for the Chinese mainland, and very complicated.
If you want to avoid the situation entirely, refer to your office in Taiwan by the name of the location within Taiwan, and don't refer to the nation at all. That way, you avoid offending both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
21
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
add a comment |
As you've found, Taiwan is a VERY sensitive subject for China. The situation is both political and ethnic for the Chinese mainland, and very complicated.
If you want to avoid the situation entirely, refer to your office in Taiwan by the name of the location within Taiwan, and don't refer to the nation at all. That way, you avoid offending both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
21
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
add a comment |
As you've found, Taiwan is a VERY sensitive subject for China. The situation is both political and ethnic for the Chinese mainland, and very complicated.
If you want to avoid the situation entirely, refer to your office in Taiwan by the name of the location within Taiwan, and don't refer to the nation at all. That way, you avoid offending both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
As you've found, Taiwan is a VERY sensitive subject for China. The situation is both political and ethnic for the Chinese mainland, and very complicated.
If you want to avoid the situation entirely, refer to your office in Taiwan by the name of the location within Taiwan, and don't refer to the nation at all. That way, you avoid offending both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 15:40
Richard URichard U
102k73278410
102k73278410
21
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
add a comment |
21
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
21
21
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
So i.e. "Our office in Taipei"?
– KingDuken
Apr 3 at 15:45
2
2
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
"Taipei Office". With the companies I've worked at, it's usual to refer to the offices by their city name. This is especially important when there are multiple offices per country.
– Gregory Currie
Apr 3 at 15:54
18
18
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
@KingDuken exactly, The Chinese will not be offended because you are not calling them "Taiwan", and the Taiwanese will not be offended, because you are not acknowledging China's claim. Everybody gets to save face. While saving face isn't AS much of an issue in China as it is in Japan, in this case, it is.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:02
1
1
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
@GregoryCurrie exactly, none of the multinationals I've worked for have ever said, "London, UK" or "Tokyo, Japan", or "New York, USA", et cet, just the city name.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 16:04
add a comment |
Dissenting opinion to the top voted answer from Richard U
I have never found this to be a problem at all.
Many of the larger Chinese Manufacturing companies such as Foxconn are actually headquartered in Taiwan and a lot the engineering and senior management staff is from Taiwan and travels back and forth a lot.
So if you sit in a meeting room and ask "hey, what are you doing on the weekend", it's perfectly normal to get the answer "I'm going home to Taiwan".
Taiwan is talked about frequently and I have never heard anyone (Chinese or otherwise) refer to it other than simply "Taiwan".
edited Apr 4 at 2:45
Richard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 21:17
HilmarHilmar
30.7k86890
11
I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
– corsiKa
Apr 4 at 4:21
add a comment |
Dissenting opinion to the top voted answer from Richard U
I have never found this to be a problem at all.
Many of the larger Chinese Manufacturing companies such as Foxconn are actually headquartered in Taiwan and a lot the engineering and senior management staff is from Taiwan and travels back and forth a lot.
So if you sit in a meeting room and ask "hey, what are you doing on the weekend", it's perfectly normal to get the answer "I'm going home to Taiwan".
Taiwan is talked about frequently and I have never heard anyone (Chinese or otherwise) refer to it other than simply "Taiwan".
edited Apr 4 at 2:45
Richard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 21:17
HilmarHilmar
30.7k86890
11
I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
– corsiKa
Apr 4 at 4:21
add a comment |
Dissenting opinion to the top voted answer from Richard U
I have never found this to be a problem at all.
Many of the larger Chinese Manufacturing companies such as Foxconn are actually headquartered in Taiwan and a lot the engineering and senior management staff is from Taiwan and travels back and forth a lot.
So if you sit in a meeting room and ask "hey, what are you doing on the weekend", it's perfectly normal to get the answer "I'm going home to Taiwan".
Taiwan is talked about frequently and I have never heard anyone (Chinese or otherwise) refer to it other than simply "Taiwan".
edited Apr 4 at 2:45
Richard U
102k73278410
answered Apr 3 at 21:17
HilmarHilmar
30.7k86890
Dissenting opinion to the top voted answer from Richard U
I have never found this to be a problem at all.
Many of the larger Chinese Manufacturing companies such as Foxconn are actually headquartered in Taiwan and a lot the engineering and senior management staff is from Taiwan and travels back and forth a lot.
So if you sit in a meeting room and ask "hey, what are you doing on the weekend", it's perfectly normal to get the answer "I'm going home to Taiwan".
Taiwan is talked about frequently and I have never heard anyone (Chinese or otherwise) refer to it other than simply "Taiwan".
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I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
– corsiKa
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I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
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I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
– corsiKa
Apr 4 at 4:21
I think the question sort of implies that you're dealing with someone who does have a problem. Obviously if there's no problem, there's no problem. But if there is a problem, well Richard has a solution.
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I've worked, and work, constantly with Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese. It's not a problem unless you, or they, want to make it a problem.
Calling it Taiwan is absolutely fine since they'll take it however they wanted it. Maybe Taiwan (as a country), or Taiwan (as People's Republic of China, Taiwan Province). No one refers to them as "name province".
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I've worked, and work, constantly with Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese. It's not a problem unless you, or they, want to make it a problem.
Calling it Taiwan is absolutely fine since they'll take it however they wanted it. Maybe Taiwan (as a country), or Taiwan (as People's Republic of China, Taiwan Province). No one refers to them as "name province".
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I've worked, and work, constantly with Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese. It's not a problem unless you, or they, want to make it a problem.
Calling it Taiwan is absolutely fine since they'll take it however they wanted it. Maybe Taiwan (as a country), or Taiwan (as People's Republic of China, Taiwan Province). No one refers to them as "name province".
answered Apr 4 at 3:30
MalisbadMalisbad
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I've worked, and work, constantly with Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese. It's not a problem unless you, or they, want to make it a problem.
Calling it Taiwan is absolutely fine since they'll take it however they wanted it. Maybe Taiwan (as a country), or Taiwan (as People's Republic of China, Taiwan Province). No one refers to them as "name province".
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Noteworthy is that, in my experiences dealing with Chinese-nationals (in Canada, my locale), most of them do not care if I say "Taiwan", and usually they will themselves refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan" when speaking in English (I don't know what they say in Chinese to each other because I don't speak Chinese). If you are dealing with Chinese individuals and not the Chinese government, it's probably not an issue to refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan"; as with most dictatorships or dictatorship-esque countries (of which China is one), the opinions of the populace tend to be very opposite the official positions of the leadership.
There's nothing wrong with saying "Taipei" as suggested in Richard U's answer; I'm simply making note that this might not be nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.
answered Apr 3 at 20:06
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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Noteworthy is that, in my experiences dealing with Chinese-nationals (in Canada, my locale), most of them do not care if I say "Taiwan", and usually they will themselves refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan" when speaking in English (I don't know what they say in Chinese to each other because I don't speak Chinese). If you are dealing with Chinese individuals and not the Chinese government, it's probably not an issue to refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan"; as with most dictatorships or dictatorship-esque countries (of which China is one), the opinions of the populace tend to be very opposite the official positions of the leadership.
There's nothing wrong with saying "Taipei" as suggested in Richard U's answer; I'm simply making note that this might not be nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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Noteworthy is that, in my experiences dealing with Chinese-nationals (in Canada, my locale), most of them do not care if I say "Taiwan", and usually they will themselves refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan" when speaking in English (I don't know what they say in Chinese to each other because I don't speak Chinese). If you are dealing with Chinese individuals and not the Chinese government, it's probably not an issue to refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan"; as with most dictatorships or dictatorship-esque countries (of which China is one), the opinions of the populace tend to be very opposite the official positions of the leadership.
There's nothing wrong with saying "Taipei" as suggested in Richard U's answer; I'm simply making note that this might not be nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.
answered Apr 3 at 20:06
Ertai87Ertai87
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Noteworthy is that, in my experiences dealing with Chinese-nationals (in Canada, my locale), most of them do not care if I say "Taiwan", and usually they will themselves refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan" when speaking in English (I don't know what they say in Chinese to each other because I don't speak Chinese). If you are dealing with Chinese individuals and not the Chinese government, it's probably not an issue to refer to Taiwan as "Taiwan"; as with most dictatorships or dictatorship-esque countries (of which China is one), the opinions of the populace tend to be very opposite the official positions of the leadership.
There's nothing wrong with saying "Taipei" as suggested in Richard U's answer; I'm simply making note that this might not be nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.
answered Apr 3 at 20:06
Ertai87Ertai87
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answered Apr 3 at 20:06
Ertai87Ertai87
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answered Apr 3 at 20:06
Ertai87Ertai87
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
There's a bit more involved when actually doing business in China, because the Chinese government is directly involved, and they will tend to flex their muscles over things like this.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 20:18
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Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe?
Taiwan is an independent country, with it's own army and president. It's not part of China. It's as ridiculous as saying the independent Hong Kong is part of China.
People who are offended for the obvious facts are not very intelligent, you need to be professional and avoid as much contact with them as possible. Don't ask for troubles, but please also don't back down from the history.
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
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Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?
– KingDuken
yesterday
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Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe?
Taiwan is an independent country, with it's own army and president. It's not part of China. It's as ridiculous as saying the independent Hong Kong is part of China.
People who are offended for the obvious facts are not very intelligent, you need to be professional and avoid as much contact with them as possible. Don't ask for troubles, but please also don't back down from the history.
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?
– KingDuken
yesterday
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Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe?
Taiwan is an independent country, with it's own army and president. It's not part of China. It's as ridiculous as saying the independent Hong Kong is part of China.
People who are offended for the obvious facts are not very intelligent, you need to be professional and avoid as much contact with them as possible. Don't ask for troubles, but please also don't back down from the history.
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
Is there a way to mention the name of "Taiwan" without sounding insensitive to what the Chinese believe?
Taiwan is an independent country, with it's own army and president. It's not part of China. It's as ridiculous as saying the independent Hong Kong is part of China.
People who are offended for the obvious facts are not very intelligent, you need to be professional and avoid as much contact with them as possible. Don't ask for troubles, but please also don't back down from the history.
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
answered 2 days ago
SmallChessSmallChess
1,5005924
1,5005924
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?
– KingDuken
yesterday
add a comment |
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?
– KingDuken
yesterday
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?– KingDuken
yesterday
Taiwan is an independent country, actually, we don't know for sure. If they were indeed 100% independent, there would be a lot of conflict in that region where China is constantly threatening Taiwan to submit and Western countries would tell China to back off. Even the United Nations has rejected Taiwan's admission to be part of the UN on multiple occasions. If you think my consideration is a sign of lack intelligence, then perhaps you can provide definitive proof to prove me wrong. Show me exactly what date Taiwan has gained its full independence. Ever heard of the One China Policy?– KingDuken
yesterday
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Sure, you just say Taipei (or even better, the quarter, Jinyi, or whatever, if relevant). As explained in the excellent answer.
– Fattie
Apr 3 at 16:56
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As far as I know the USA do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, therefore it might be better to edit the question to reflect that it's your personal viewpoint.
– Chris
Apr 3 at 18:39
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@BryanH Um, no. This is diplomacy, and very easily answered.
– Richard U
Apr 3 at 19:42
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Just to hammer in how loaded with confusion this is - Taiwan actually calls itself The Republic of China. With China being the People's Republic of China.
– Grimm The Opiner
2 days ago
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Thank you for the response everyone. One of my goals for asking this was for reference on how I should communicate with other people of different views on such topics. We've done business with China for a very long time. However, our Taipei office is actually our most recent member of my company. I just wanted to make sure I was saying the right stuff :) True, I can agree why question is put on hold. However, I didn't mean for it to sound like I'm delegating with the Chinese government.
– KingDuken
2 days ago