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    @xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

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    echo $SHELL, no?

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  • @innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

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  • I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
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  • Also some shells (like scsh) dont use POSIX shell like syntax.

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    @xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

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    echo $SHELL, no?

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  • @innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

    – Basil Bourque
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  • I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
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    @xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

    – Gilles
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    echo $SHELL, no?

    – innocent-world
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  • @innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

    – Basil Bourque
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  • I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
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  • Also some shells (like scsh) dont use POSIX shell like syntax.

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    Aug 24 '17 at 10:30












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    @xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

    – Gilles
    Mar 30 '11 at 17:33






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    echo $SHELL, no?

    – innocent-world
    Aug 23 '13 at 11:49











  • @innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

    – Basil Bourque
    Feb 4 '17 at 23:18











  • I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

    – Basile Starynkevitch
    Aug 24 '17 at 10:26











  • Also some shells (like scsh) dont use POSIX shell like syntax.

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@xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

– Gilles
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@xenoterracide: at least unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3645/… . geekosaur's answer is more complete, so i voted to close the earlier question.

– Gilles
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echo $SHELL, no?

– innocent-world
Aug 23 '13 at 11:49





echo $SHELL, no?

– innocent-world
Aug 23 '13 at 11:49













@innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

– Basil Bourque
Feb 4 '17 at 23:18





@innocent-world No, echo #SHELL is not quite it. See # 3 in the Answer by geekosaur.

– Basil Bourque
Feb 4 '17 at 23:18













I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Aug 24 '17 at 10:26





I am not so sure that "shell" has a well defined meaning. For example, you might run xterm -e /bin/cat but I am not happy calling /bin/cat a shell.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Aug 24 '17 at 10:26













Also some shells (like scsh) dont use POSIX shell like syntax.

– Basile Starynkevitch
Aug 24 '17 at 10:30





Also some shells (like scsh) dont use POSIX shell like syntax.

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Several ways, from most to least reliable (and most-to-least "heavy"):




  1. ps -p$$ -ocmd=. (On Solaris, this may need to be fname instead of cmd. On OSX and on BSD should be command instead of cmd.)

  2. Check for $BASH_VERSION, $ZSH_VERSION, and other shell-specific variables.

  3. Check $SHELL; this is a last resort, as it specifies your default shell and not necessarily the current shell.





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    Should you mention $0 too?

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  • I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

    – geekosaur
    Mar 18 '11 at 2:44











  • ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

    – asoundmove
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    @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

    – iconoclast
    Aug 29 '12 at 21:49







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    If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

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I've found that the following works in the four shells I have installed on my system (bash, dash, zsh, csh):



$ ps -p $$


The following works on zsh, bash, and dash, but not on csh:



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    Also does not work on fish.

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  • I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

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As the question asks for the shell used and does not talk about the potential arguments passed to it, here is a way that avoid showing them:



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    A note about some lighter implementations (Android phones, busybox, etc.): ps doesn't always have support for the -p switch, but you can accomplish the search with a command like ps | grep "^$$ ". (This grep regex will uniquely identify the PID, so there will not be any false positives.






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      ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

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    There are two really simple ways:




    • Using ps command:



      ps -o comm= $$


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      ps -h -o comm -p $$


      where:




      • -h or finishing all options with = for not showing any header.


      • -o comm for showing only the process basename (bash instead of /bin/bash).


      • -p <PID> list only process whith PID form list suplied.



    • Using the /proc process information pseudo-file system:



      cat /proc/$$/comm


      This option behaves exactly as the ps command above.



      or



      readlink /proc/$$/exe


      This /proc/PID/exe links to the file being executed, which in this case would point to /bin/bash, /bin/ksh, etc.



      For getting only the name of the shell you can just use



      basename $(readlink /proc/$$/exe)


      This is the only option that will always give the same result even if you are in an script, sourced code, or terminal, as links to the binary of the shell interpreter in use.



      Warning You must be aware that this will show the ultimate binary, so ksh may be linked to ksh93 or sh to bash.



    The usage of /proc is really useful via the /proc/self, which links to the PID of the current command.






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      A mix of all the other answers, compatible with Mac (comm), Solaris (fname) and Linux (cmd):



      ps -p$$ -o cmd="",comm="",fname="" 2>/dev/null | sed 's/^-//' | grep -oE 'w+' | head -n1





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      • this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

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      If you have it saved in your environment variables you can use the following:



      echo $SHELL





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      • That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

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      The pid of the running shell is given by the var $$ (in most shells).



      whichsh="`ps -o pid,args| awk '$1=='"$$"'print $2'`"
      echo "$whichsh"


      Using backticks to make jsh (Heirlomm shell) work.



      In many shells the direct test of ps -o args= -p $$ works, but busybox ash fails on that (solved).



      The check that $1 must be equal to $$ removes most false positives.



      The last ;: are used to keep the shell running for ksh and zsh.



      Tests on more systems will help, please make a comment if it doesn't work for you.



      Does not work in csh type of shells.






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      • On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

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      • Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

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      • @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

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      I set $MYSHELL for future tests in my shell-agnostic ~/.aliases:



      unset MYSHELL
      if [ -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ] && type zstyle >/dev/null 2>&1; then # zsh
      MYSHELL=`command -v zsh`
      elif [ -x "$BASH" ] && shopt -q >/dev/null 2>&1; then # bash
      MYSHELL=`command -v bash`
      elif [ -x "$shell" ] && which setenv |grep builtin >/dev/null; then # tcsh
      echo "DANGER: this script is likely not compatible with C shells!"
      sleep 5
      setenv MYSHELL "$shell"
      fi

      # verify
      if [ ! -x "$MYSHELL" ]; then
      MYSHELL=`command -v "$(ps $$ |awk 'NR == 2 print $NF ')"`
      [ -x "$MYSHELL" ] || MYSHELL="$SHELL:-/bin/sh" # default if verify fails
      fi


      The tcsh section is likely unwise to roll into a POSIX-style script since it's so radically different (thus the warning and five second pause). (For one, csh-style shells can't do 2>/dev/null or >&2, as noted in the famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful rant.)






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        You can simply use echo $0 command to check which shell you are using and <name_of_the_shell> --version to check the version of the shell. (eg. bash --version).






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        • Steven D already mentioned it : )

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        This works too:



        env | grep SHELL





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          Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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        Several ways, from most to least reliable (and most-to-least "heavy"):




        1. ps -p$$ -ocmd=. (On Solaris, this may need to be fname instead of cmd. On OSX and on BSD should be command instead of cmd.)

        2. Check for $BASH_VERSION, $ZSH_VERSION, and other shell-specific variables.

        3. Check $SHELL; this is a last resort, as it specifies your default shell and not necessarily the current shell.





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          Should you mention $0 too?

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        • I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

          – geekosaur
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:44











        • ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

          – asoundmove
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          @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

          – iconoclast
          Aug 29 '12 at 21:49







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          If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

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        Several ways, from most to least reliable (and most-to-least "heavy"):




        1. ps -p$$ -ocmd=. (On Solaris, this may need to be fname instead of cmd. On OSX and on BSD should be command instead of cmd.)

        2. Check for $BASH_VERSION, $ZSH_VERSION, and other shell-specific variables.

        3. Check $SHELL; this is a last resort, as it specifies your default shell and not necessarily the current shell.





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          Should you mention $0 too?

          – Mikel
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:41











        • I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

          – geekosaur
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:44











        • ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

          – asoundmove
          Mar 18 '11 at 3:51






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          @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

          – iconoclast
          Aug 29 '12 at 21:49







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          If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

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        Several ways, from most to least reliable (and most-to-least "heavy"):




        1. ps -p$$ -ocmd=. (On Solaris, this may need to be fname instead of cmd. On OSX and on BSD should be command instead of cmd.)

        2. Check for $BASH_VERSION, $ZSH_VERSION, and other shell-specific variables.

        3. Check $SHELL; this is a last resort, as it specifies your default shell and not necessarily the current shell.





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        Several ways, from most to least reliable (and most-to-least "heavy"):




        1. ps -p$$ -ocmd=. (On Solaris, this may need to be fname instead of cmd. On OSX and on BSD should be command instead of cmd.)

        2. Check for $BASH_VERSION, $ZSH_VERSION, and other shell-specific variables.

        3. Check $SHELL; this is a last resort, as it specifies your default shell and not necessarily the current shell.






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          Should you mention $0 too?

          – Mikel
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:41











        • I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

          – geekosaur
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:44











        • ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

          – asoundmove
          Mar 18 '11 at 3:51






        • 1





          @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

          – iconoclast
          Aug 29 '12 at 21:49







        • 2





          If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

          – Keith Thompson
          Mar 18 '14 at 1:51












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          Should you mention $0 too?

          – Mikel
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:41











        • I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

          – geekosaur
          Mar 18 '11 at 2:44











        • ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

          – asoundmove
          Mar 18 '11 at 3:51






        • 1





          @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

          – iconoclast
          Aug 29 '12 at 21:49







        • 2





          If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

          – Keith Thompson
          Mar 18 '14 at 1:51







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        Should you mention $0 too?

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        Should you mention $0 too?

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        I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

        – geekosaur
        Mar 18 '11 at 2:44





        I don't like $0 because it's more complicated: (1) it may be just the basename, (2) it may have '-' on the front to designate it as a login shell.

        – geekosaur
        Mar 18 '11 at 2:44













        ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

        – asoundmove
        Mar 18 '11 at 3:51





        ps -p$$ -ocmd="" is prettier :-)

        – asoundmove
        Mar 18 '11 at 3:51




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        @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

        – iconoclast
        Aug 29 '12 at 21:49






        @geekosaur: maybe so, but $0 still seems more useful than $SHELL: wouldn't you agree? You could always pipe it through sed to remove the '-'.

        – iconoclast
        Aug 29 '12 at 21:49





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        If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

        – Keith Thompson
        Mar 18 '14 at 1:51





        If you're running tcsh, $tcsh and $version will be set. These are shell variables, not environment variables. If you're running a non-tcsh version of csh, I don't think there are any distinctive variables. And of course the syntax used to check variables differs between csh/tcsh on the one hand, and sh/ksh/bash/zsh on the other.

        – Keith Thompson
        Mar 18 '14 at 1:51













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        I've found that the following works in the four shells I have installed on my system (bash, dash, zsh, csh):



        $ ps -p $$


        The following works on zsh, bash, and dash, but not on csh:



        $ echo $0





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        • 2





          Also does not work on fish.

          – Ron E
          Aug 7 '16 at 15:27











        • I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

          – Steven D
          Aug 27 '16 at 23:00















        40














        I've found that the following works in the four shells I have installed on my system (bash, dash, zsh, csh):



        $ ps -p $$


        The following works on zsh, bash, and dash, but not on csh:



        $ echo $0





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        • 2





          Also does not work on fish.

          – Ron E
          Aug 7 '16 at 15:27











        • I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

          – Steven D
          Aug 27 '16 at 23:00













        40












        40








        40







        I've found that the following works in the four shells I have installed on my system (bash, dash, zsh, csh):



        $ ps -p $$


        The following works on zsh, bash, and dash, but not on csh:



        $ echo $0





        share|improve this answer













        I've found that the following works in the four shells I have installed on my system (bash, dash, zsh, csh):



        $ ps -p $$


        The following works on zsh, bash, and dash, but not on csh:



        $ echo $0






        share|improve this answer












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        answered Oct 30 '10 at 20:06









        Steven DSteven D

        32.9k898108




        32.9k898108







        • 2





          Also does not work on fish.

          – Ron E
          Aug 7 '16 at 15:27











        • I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

          – Steven D
          Aug 27 '16 at 23:00












        • 2





          Also does not work on fish.

          – Ron E
          Aug 7 '16 at 15:27











        • I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

          – Steven D
          Aug 27 '16 at 23:00







        2




        2





        Also does not work on fish.

        – Ron E
        Aug 7 '16 at 15:27





        Also does not work on fish.

        – Ron E
        Aug 7 '16 at 15:27













        I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

        – Steven D
        Aug 27 '16 at 23:00





        I think that @jiliagre's answer is probably would I would use today. On fish %self can be used in place of $$

        – Steven D
        Aug 27 '16 at 23:00











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        As the question asks for the shell used and does not talk about the potential arguments passed to it, here is a way that avoid showing them:



        $ ps -o comm= -p $$
        ksh93





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          8














          As the question asks for the shell used and does not talk about the potential arguments passed to it, here is a way that avoid showing them:



          $ ps -o comm= -p $$
          ksh93





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            8












            8








            8







            As the question asks for the shell used and does not talk about the potential arguments passed to it, here is a way that avoid showing them:



            $ ps -o comm= -p $$
            ksh93





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            As the question asks for the shell used and does not talk about the potential arguments passed to it, here is a way that avoid showing them:



            $ ps -o comm= -p $$
            ksh93






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            jlliagrejlliagre

            47.9k786138




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                A note about some lighter implementations (Android phones, busybox, etc.): ps doesn't always have support for the -p switch, but you can accomplish the search with a command like ps | grep "^$$ ". (This grep regex will uniquely identify the PID, so there will not be any false positives.






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                • 7





                  ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                  – Keith Thompson
                  Mar 18 '14 at 1:48















                6














                A note about some lighter implementations (Android phones, busybox, etc.): ps doesn't always have support for the -p switch, but you can accomplish the search with a command like ps | grep "^$$ ". (This grep regex will uniquely identify the PID, so there will not be any false positives.






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                • 7





                  ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                  – Keith Thompson
                  Mar 18 '14 at 1:48













                6












                6








                6







                A note about some lighter implementations (Android phones, busybox, etc.): ps doesn't always have support for the -p switch, but you can accomplish the search with a command like ps | grep "^$$ ". (This grep regex will uniquely identify the PID, so there will not be any false positives.






                share|improve this answer















                A note about some lighter implementations (Android phones, busybox, etc.): ps doesn't always have support for the -p switch, but you can accomplish the search with a command like ps | grep "^$$ ". (This grep regex will uniquely identify the PID, so there will not be any false positives.







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                edited Sep 21 '17 at 21:03









                go2null

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                answered Feb 2 '12 at 21:03









                palswimpalswim

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                • 7





                  ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                  – Keith Thompson
                  Mar 18 '14 at 1:48












                • 7





                  ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                  – Keith Thompson
                  Mar 18 '14 at 1:48







                7




                7





                ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                – Keith Thompson
                Mar 18 '14 at 1:48





                ps | grep $$ can still give false positives if, for example, your current process is 1234 and there's a process 12345.

                – Keith Thompson
                Mar 18 '14 at 1:48











                4














                There are two really simple ways:




                • Using ps command:



                  ps -o comm= $$


                  or



                  ps -h -o comm -p $$


                  where:




                  • -h or finishing all options with = for not showing any header.


                  • -o comm for showing only the process basename (bash instead of /bin/bash).


                  • -p <PID> list only process whith PID form list suplied.



                • Using the /proc process information pseudo-file system:



                  cat /proc/$$/comm


                  This option behaves exactly as the ps command above.



                  or



                  readlink /proc/$$/exe


                  This /proc/PID/exe links to the file being executed, which in this case would point to /bin/bash, /bin/ksh, etc.



                  For getting only the name of the shell you can just use



                  basename $(readlink /proc/$$/exe)


                  This is the only option that will always give the same result even if you are in an script, sourced code, or terminal, as links to the binary of the shell interpreter in use.



                  Warning You must be aware that this will show the ultimate binary, so ksh may be linked to ksh93 or sh to bash.



                The usage of /proc is really useful via the /proc/self, which links to the PID of the current command.






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                  4














                  There are two really simple ways:




                  • Using ps command:



                    ps -o comm= $$


                    or



                    ps -h -o comm -p $$


                    where:




                    • -h or finishing all options with = for not showing any header.


                    • -o comm for showing only the process basename (bash instead of /bin/bash).


                    • -p <PID> list only process whith PID form list suplied.



                  • Using the /proc process information pseudo-file system:



                    cat /proc/$$/comm


                    This option behaves exactly as the ps command above.



                    or



                    readlink /proc/$$/exe


                    This /proc/PID/exe links to the file being executed, which in this case would point to /bin/bash, /bin/ksh, etc.



                    For getting only the name of the shell you can just use



                    basename $(readlink /proc/$$/exe)


                    This is the only option that will always give the same result even if you are in an script, sourced code, or terminal, as links to the binary of the shell interpreter in use.



                    Warning You must be aware that this will show the ultimate binary, so ksh may be linked to ksh93 or sh to bash.



                  The usage of /proc is really useful via the /proc/self, which links to the PID of the current command.






                  share|improve this answer



























                    4












                    4








                    4







                    There are two really simple ways:




                    • Using ps command:



                      ps -o comm= $$


                      or



                      ps -h -o comm -p $$


                      where:




                      • -h or finishing all options with = for not showing any header.


                      • -o comm for showing only the process basename (bash instead of /bin/bash).


                      • -p <PID> list only process whith PID form list suplied.



                    • Using the /proc process information pseudo-file system:



                      cat /proc/$$/comm


                      This option behaves exactly as the ps command above.



                      or



                      readlink /proc/$$/exe


                      This /proc/PID/exe links to the file being executed, which in this case would point to /bin/bash, /bin/ksh, etc.



                      For getting only the name of the shell you can just use



                      basename $(readlink /proc/$$/exe)


                      This is the only option that will always give the same result even if you are in an script, sourced code, or terminal, as links to the binary of the shell interpreter in use.



                      Warning You must be aware that this will show the ultimate binary, so ksh may be linked to ksh93 or sh to bash.



                    The usage of /proc is really useful via the /proc/self, which links to the PID of the current command.






                    share|improve this answer















                    There are two really simple ways:




                    • Using ps command:



                      ps -o comm= $$


                      or



                      ps -h -o comm -p $$


                      where:




                      • -h or finishing all options with = for not showing any header.


                      • -o comm for showing only the process basename (bash instead of /bin/bash).


                      • -p <PID> list only process whith PID form list suplied.



                    • Using the /proc process information pseudo-file system:



                      cat /proc/$$/comm


                      This option behaves exactly as the ps command above.



                      or



                      readlink /proc/$$/exe


                      This /proc/PID/exe links to the file being executed, which in this case would point to /bin/bash, /bin/ksh, etc.



                      For getting only the name of the shell you can just use



                      basename $(readlink /proc/$$/exe)


                      This is the only option that will always give the same result even if you are in an script, sourced code, or terminal, as links to the binary of the shell interpreter in use.



                      Warning You must be aware that this will show the ultimate binary, so ksh may be linked to ksh93 or sh to bash.



                    The usage of /proc is really useful via the /proc/self, which links to the PID of the current command.







                    share|improve this answer














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                    edited Jul 6 '18 at 23:50









                    Jeff Schaller

                    45k1164147




                    45k1164147










                    answered Aug 24 '17 at 10:18









                    David GoitiaDavid Goitia

                    664




                    664





















                        3














                        A mix of all the other answers, compatible with Mac (comm), Solaris (fname) and Linux (cmd):



                        ps -p$$ -o cmd="",comm="",fname="" 2>/dev/null | sed 's/^-//' | grep -oE 'w+' | head -n1





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                        • this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                          – iconoclast
                          Aug 7 '15 at 0:17
















                        3














                        A mix of all the other answers, compatible with Mac (comm), Solaris (fname) and Linux (cmd):



                        ps -p$$ -o cmd="",comm="",fname="" 2>/dev/null | sed 's/^-//' | grep -oE 'w+' | head -n1





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                        • this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                          – iconoclast
                          Aug 7 '15 at 0:17














                        3












                        3








                        3







                        A mix of all the other answers, compatible with Mac (comm), Solaris (fname) and Linux (cmd):



                        ps -p$$ -o cmd="",comm="",fname="" 2>/dev/null | sed 's/^-//' | grep -oE 'w+' | head -n1





                        share|improve this answer















                        A mix of all the other answers, compatible with Mac (comm), Solaris (fname) and Linux (cmd):



                        ps -p$$ -o cmd="",comm="",fname="" 2>/dev/null | sed 's/^-//' | grep -oE 'w+' | head -n1






                        share|improve this answer














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                        edited Mar 19 '14 at 19:02

























                        answered Mar 18 '14 at 0:23









                        sebastiensebastien

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                        • this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                          – iconoclast
                          Aug 7 '15 at 0:17


















                        • this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                          – iconoclast
                          Aug 7 '15 at 0:17

















                        this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                        – iconoclast
                        Aug 7 '15 at 0:17






                        this gives me my current directory name; also, under csh and tcsh it gives me Ambiguous output redirect.

                        – iconoclast
                        Aug 7 '15 at 0:17












                        2














                        If you have it saved in your environment variables you can use the following:



                        echo $SHELL





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                        • That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                          – Kusalananda
                          Apr 10 at 6:39















                        2














                        If you have it saved in your environment variables you can use the following:



                        echo $SHELL





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                        • That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                          – Kusalananda
                          Apr 10 at 6:39













                        2












                        2








                        2







                        If you have it saved in your environment variables you can use the following:



                        echo $SHELL





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                        If you have it saved in your environment variables you can use the following:



                        echo $SHELL






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                        edited Apr 10 at 6:40









                        muru

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                        answered May 21 '18 at 23:48









                        jasonleonhardjasonleonhard

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                        • That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                          – Kusalananda
                          Apr 10 at 6:39

















                        • That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                          – Kusalananda
                          Apr 10 at 6:39
















                        That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                        – Kusalananda
                        Apr 10 at 6:39





                        That will most likely return the pathname of the shell executable of your login shell. It is not certain that the login shell is what you are currently running though.

                        – Kusalananda
                        Apr 10 at 6:39











                        1














                        The pid of the running shell is given by the var $$ (in most shells).



                        whichsh="`ps -o pid,args| awk '$1=='"$$"'print $2'`"
                        echo "$whichsh"


                        Using backticks to make jsh (Heirlomm shell) work.



                        In many shells the direct test of ps -o args= -p $$ works, but busybox ash fails on that (solved).



                        The check that $1 must be equal to $$ removes most false positives.



                        The last ;: are used to keep the shell running for ksh and zsh.



                        Tests on more systems will help, please make a comment if it doesn't work for you.



                        Does not work in csh type of shells.






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                        • On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 7 '15 at 16:12











                        • Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 8 '15 at 9:57











                        • @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                          – user79743
                          Feb 25 '16 at 22:29















                        1














                        The pid of the running shell is given by the var $$ (in most shells).



                        whichsh="`ps -o pid,args| awk '$1=='"$$"'print $2'`"
                        echo "$whichsh"


                        Using backticks to make jsh (Heirlomm shell) work.



                        In many shells the direct test of ps -o args= -p $$ works, but busybox ash fails on that (solved).



                        The check that $1 must be equal to $$ removes most false positives.



                        The last ;: are used to keep the shell running for ksh and zsh.



                        Tests on more systems will help, please make a comment if it doesn't work for you.



                        Does not work in csh type of shells.






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                        • On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 7 '15 at 16:12











                        • Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 8 '15 at 9:57











                        • @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                          – user79743
                          Feb 25 '16 at 22:29













                        1












                        1








                        1







                        The pid of the running shell is given by the var $$ (in most shells).



                        whichsh="`ps -o pid,args| awk '$1=='"$$"'print $2'`"
                        echo "$whichsh"


                        Using backticks to make jsh (Heirlomm shell) work.



                        In many shells the direct test of ps -o args= -p $$ works, but busybox ash fails on that (solved).



                        The check that $1 must be equal to $$ removes most false positives.



                        The last ;: are used to keep the shell running for ksh and zsh.



                        Tests on more systems will help, please make a comment if it doesn't work for you.



                        Does not work in csh type of shells.






                        share|improve this answer















                        The pid of the running shell is given by the var $$ (in most shells).



                        whichsh="`ps -o pid,args| awk '$1=='"$$"'print $2'`"
                        echo "$whichsh"


                        Using backticks to make jsh (Heirlomm shell) work.



                        In many shells the direct test of ps -o args= -p $$ works, but busybox ash fails on that (solved).



                        The check that $1 must be equal to $$ removes most false positives.



                        The last ;: are used to keep the shell running for ksh and zsh.



                        Tests on more systems will help, please make a comment if it doesn't work for you.



                        Does not work in csh type of shells.







                        share|improve this answer














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                        edited Feb 25 '16 at 22:28

























                        answered Sep 7 '15 at 15:53







                        user79743



















                        • On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 7 '15 at 16:12











                        • Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 8 '15 at 9:57











                        • @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                          – user79743
                          Feb 25 '16 at 22:29

















                        • On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 7 '15 at 16:12











                        • Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                          – Stéphane Chazelas
                          Sep 8 '15 at 9:57











                        • @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                          – user79743
                          Feb 25 '16 at 22:29
















                        On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                        – Stéphane Chazelas
                        Sep 7 '15 at 16:12





                        On OS/X, in my tests, I get at least 3 lines, one for the shell, one for /usr/lib/dyld, one for /private/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.

                        – Stéphane Chazelas
                        Sep 7 '15 at 16:12













                        Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                        – Stéphane Chazelas
                        Sep 8 '15 at 9:57





                        Yes, it now only selects the entries in /bin and /usr/bin

                        – Stéphane Chazelas
                        Sep 8 '15 at 9:57













                        @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                        – user79743
                        Feb 25 '16 at 22:29





                        @StéphaneChazelas Maybe it is better now?

                        – user79743
                        Feb 25 '16 at 22:29











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                        I set $MYSHELL for future tests in my shell-agnostic ~/.aliases:



                        unset MYSHELL
                        if [ -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ] && type zstyle >/dev/null 2>&1; then # zsh
                        MYSHELL=`command -v zsh`
                        elif [ -x "$BASH" ] && shopt -q >/dev/null 2>&1; then # bash
                        MYSHELL=`command -v bash`
                        elif [ -x "$shell" ] && which setenv |grep builtin >/dev/null; then # tcsh
                        echo "DANGER: this script is likely not compatible with C shells!"
                        sleep 5
                        setenv MYSHELL "$shell"
                        fi

                        # verify
                        if [ ! -x "$MYSHELL" ]; then
                        MYSHELL=`command -v "$(ps $$ |awk 'NR == 2 print $NF ')"`
                        [ -x "$MYSHELL" ] || MYSHELL="$SHELL:-/bin/sh" # default if verify fails
                        fi


                        The tcsh section is likely unwise to roll into a POSIX-style script since it's so radically different (thus the warning and five second pause). (For one, csh-style shells can't do 2>/dev/null or >&2, as noted in the famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful rant.)






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                          I set $MYSHELL for future tests in my shell-agnostic ~/.aliases:



                          unset MYSHELL
                          if [ -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ] && type zstyle >/dev/null 2>&1; then # zsh
                          MYSHELL=`command -v zsh`
                          elif [ -x "$BASH" ] && shopt -q >/dev/null 2>&1; then # bash
                          MYSHELL=`command -v bash`
                          elif [ -x "$shell" ] && which setenv |grep builtin >/dev/null; then # tcsh
                          echo "DANGER: this script is likely not compatible with C shells!"
                          sleep 5
                          setenv MYSHELL "$shell"
                          fi

                          # verify
                          if [ ! -x "$MYSHELL" ]; then
                          MYSHELL=`command -v "$(ps $$ |awk 'NR == 2 print $NF ')"`
                          [ -x "$MYSHELL" ] || MYSHELL="$SHELL:-/bin/sh" # default if verify fails
                          fi


                          The tcsh section is likely unwise to roll into a POSIX-style script since it's so radically different (thus the warning and five second pause). (For one, csh-style shells can't do 2>/dev/null or >&2, as noted in the famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful rant.)






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                            0








                            0







                            I set $MYSHELL for future tests in my shell-agnostic ~/.aliases:



                            unset MYSHELL
                            if [ -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ] && type zstyle >/dev/null 2>&1; then # zsh
                            MYSHELL=`command -v zsh`
                            elif [ -x "$BASH" ] && shopt -q >/dev/null 2>&1; then # bash
                            MYSHELL=`command -v bash`
                            elif [ -x "$shell" ] && which setenv |grep builtin >/dev/null; then # tcsh
                            echo "DANGER: this script is likely not compatible with C shells!"
                            sleep 5
                            setenv MYSHELL "$shell"
                            fi

                            # verify
                            if [ ! -x "$MYSHELL" ]; then
                            MYSHELL=`command -v "$(ps $$ |awk 'NR == 2 print $NF ')"`
                            [ -x "$MYSHELL" ] || MYSHELL="$SHELL:-/bin/sh" # default if verify fails
                            fi


                            The tcsh section is likely unwise to roll into a POSIX-style script since it's so radically different (thus the warning and five second pause). (For one, csh-style shells can't do 2>/dev/null or >&2, as noted in the famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful rant.)






                            share|improve this answer















                            I set $MYSHELL for future tests in my shell-agnostic ~/.aliases:



                            unset MYSHELL
                            if [ -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ] && type zstyle >/dev/null 2>&1; then # zsh
                            MYSHELL=`command -v zsh`
                            elif [ -x "$BASH" ] && shopt -q >/dev/null 2>&1; then # bash
                            MYSHELL=`command -v bash`
                            elif [ -x "$shell" ] && which setenv |grep builtin >/dev/null; then # tcsh
                            echo "DANGER: this script is likely not compatible with C shells!"
                            sleep 5
                            setenv MYSHELL "$shell"
                            fi

                            # verify
                            if [ ! -x "$MYSHELL" ]; then
                            MYSHELL=`command -v "$(ps $$ |awk 'NR == 2 print $NF ')"`
                            [ -x "$MYSHELL" ] || MYSHELL="$SHELL:-/bin/sh" # default if verify fails
                            fi


                            The tcsh section is likely unwise to roll into a POSIX-style script since it's so radically different (thus the warning and five second pause). (For one, csh-style shells can't do 2>/dev/null or >&2, as noted in the famous Csh Programming Considered Harmful rant.)







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                                You can simply use echo $0 command to check which shell you are using and <name_of_the_shell> --version to check the version of the shell. (eg. bash --version).






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                                You can simply use echo $0 command to check which shell you are using and <name_of_the_shell> --version to check the version of the shell. (eg. bash --version).






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                                You can simply use echo $0 command to check which shell you are using and <name_of_the_shell> --version to check the version of the shell. (eg. bash --version).






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                                You can simply use echo $0 command to check which shell you are using and <name_of_the_shell> --version to check the version of the shell. (eg. bash --version).







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                                Sachin CSachin C

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                                • Steven D already mentioned it : )

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                                • Steven D already mentioned it : )

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                                Steven D already mentioned it : )

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                                This works too:



                                env | grep SHELL





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                                  Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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                                This works too:



                                env | grep SHELL





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                                This works too:



                                env | grep SHELL





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                                This works too:



                                env | grep SHELL






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                                  Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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                                  Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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                                Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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                                Or not. See point 3. in geekosaur's answer.

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