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Bring interface up even if link is down (no carrier)



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowHow do I regain my Ubuntu Linux login capability as well as gain full Internet interconnectivity?Modem Manager set bearer and connect automaticallyConfigure ipaddress with systemd-networkd without linkIncrease wireless interface link speedNetworkManager-configured dnsmasq failing to forward requestsHow to configure networking and internet access with the intel x553 networking chip?interface stops retrieving pages when static ip is setHow exactly are NetworkManager, networkd, netplan, ifupdown2, and iproute2 interacting?Netplan disable default route on interfaceConfiguring netplan on ubuntu 18 properly










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My system is a Dell PowerEdge T140, running Ubuntu 18.04.2.



I have a service that depends on the host's primary IP address, and that service fails to start if that address is not configured on the host.



Is there a way to have netplan bring a statically-configured interface up, even if the link for that interface is down at boot time, and keep it up if if the link is lost at any given time? I haven't been able to do it yet, neither with NetworkManager nor with networkd as the renderer.



During my testing, I tried to force the network up with ip link set eno1 up, but it didn't work. However, e.g. ifconfig eno1 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 does work, and possibly I could use it as a workaround (by doing something like adding that command to rc.local and forcing the broken service to restart).



The workaround solution, however, is very ugly, and it uses a tool (ifconfig) which is no longer in the default installation, so I'd rather avoid it, and stick to being as close to standard configurations as possible.










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  • I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

    – wurtel
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

    – jww
    2 days ago












  • actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

    – A.B
    2 days ago







  • 1





    possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

    – A.B
    2 days ago











  • @A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

    – Paulo1205
    2 days ago















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My system is a Dell PowerEdge T140, running Ubuntu 18.04.2.



I have a service that depends on the host's primary IP address, and that service fails to start if that address is not configured on the host.



Is there a way to have netplan bring a statically-configured interface up, even if the link for that interface is down at boot time, and keep it up if if the link is lost at any given time? I haven't been able to do it yet, neither with NetworkManager nor with networkd as the renderer.



During my testing, I tried to force the network up with ip link set eno1 up, but it didn't work. However, e.g. ifconfig eno1 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 does work, and possibly I could use it as a workaround (by doing something like adding that command to rc.local and forcing the broken service to restart).



The workaround solution, however, is very ugly, and it uses a tool (ifconfig) which is no longer in the default installation, so I'd rather avoid it, and stick to being as close to standard configurations as possible.










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  • I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

    – wurtel
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

    – jww
    2 days ago












  • actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

    – A.B
    2 days ago







  • 1





    possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

    – A.B
    2 days ago











  • @A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

    – Paulo1205
    2 days ago













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My system is a Dell PowerEdge T140, running Ubuntu 18.04.2.



I have a service that depends on the host's primary IP address, and that service fails to start if that address is not configured on the host.



Is there a way to have netplan bring a statically-configured interface up, even if the link for that interface is down at boot time, and keep it up if if the link is lost at any given time? I haven't been able to do it yet, neither with NetworkManager nor with networkd as the renderer.



During my testing, I tried to force the network up with ip link set eno1 up, but it didn't work. However, e.g. ifconfig eno1 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 does work, and possibly I could use it as a workaround (by doing something like adding that command to rc.local and forcing the broken service to restart).



The workaround solution, however, is very ugly, and it uses a tool (ifconfig) which is no longer in the default installation, so I'd rather avoid it, and stick to being as close to standard configurations as possible.










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My system is a Dell PowerEdge T140, running Ubuntu 18.04.2.



I have a service that depends on the host's primary IP address, and that service fails to start if that address is not configured on the host.



Is there a way to have netplan bring a statically-configured interface up, even if the link for that interface is down at boot time, and keep it up if if the link is lost at any given time? I haven't been able to do it yet, neither with NetworkManager nor with networkd as the renderer.



During my testing, I tried to force the network up with ip link set eno1 up, but it didn't work. However, e.g. ifconfig eno1 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 does work, and possibly I could use it as a workaround (by doing something like adding that command to rc.local and forcing the broken service to restart).



The workaround solution, however, is very ugly, and it uses a tool (ifconfig) which is no longer in the default installation, so I'd rather avoid it, and stick to being as close to standard configurations as possible.







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  • I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

    – wurtel
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

    – jww
    2 days ago












  • actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

    – A.B
    2 days ago







  • 1





    possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

    – A.B
    2 days ago











  • @A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

    – Paulo1205
    2 days ago

















  • I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

    – wurtel
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

    – jww
    2 days ago












  • actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

    – A.B
    2 days ago







  • 1





    possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

    – A.B
    2 days ago











  • @A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

    – Paulo1205
    2 days ago
















I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

– wurtel
2 days ago





I know that with Debian if you configure a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces, NetworkManager won't touch that interface, and you can then configure the IP address on that interface irrespective of the link being up or not. However perhaps Ubuntu is different.

– wurtel
2 days ago




1




1





Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

– jww
2 days ago






Related, ifconfig replacement is ip addr. command -v ifconfig and command -v ip will tell you which one is available. I miss the old days when hostname, ifconfig, cron and friends worked...

– jww
2 days ago














actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

– A.B
2 days ago






actually one ifconfig command setting an address should be replaced with two commands: ip addr add ... + ip link set ... up, because the up is implicit in ifconfig in such case.

– A.B
2 days ago





1




1





possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

– A.B
2 days ago





possible explanation there: Why is Netplan/Networkd not bringing up a static ethernet interface?

– A.B
2 days ago













@A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

– Paulo1205
2 days ago





@A.B, yes... I think it is the right explanation. Thank you for the find (I did a lot of search before asking my question, but maybe not with the correct terms)! I'll try it as soon as I return home.

– Paulo1205
2 days ago










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