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Is “inadequate referencing” a euphemism for plagiarism?
Are there any examples for an ArXiv publication nurturing or preventing plagiarism?How to preempt plagiarism accusationsHow to reconcile with an old mentor after (unintentional) plagiarism accusationsPlagiarism of Lecture SlidesHow to deal with past unintentional and unpunished plagiarism?I came across plagiarism. Whom should I inform if at all?What are examples of penalties for “self-plagiarism”?Does two lines of copied code constitute plagiarism?Got accused of plagiarism due to a reference lost during copying my own writingWhat should I do when a predatory conference will not listen to us and the journal might retract our paper?
I am aware of a professor, who wrote two published books that had to be corrected. On the publisher's website it states that these two books had been corrected due to "inadequate referencing". Is inadequate referencing essentially a euphemism for plagiarism? Or is it possible that inadequate referencing can really be a lesser sort of offence?
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I am aware of a professor, who wrote two published books that had to be corrected. On the publisher's website it states that these two books had been corrected due to "inadequate referencing". Is inadequate referencing essentially a euphemism for plagiarism? Or is it possible that inadequate referencing can really be a lesser sort of offence?
plagiarism terminology
It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
4 hours ago
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I am aware of a professor, who wrote two published books that had to be corrected. On the publisher's website it states that these two books had been corrected due to "inadequate referencing". Is inadequate referencing essentially a euphemism for plagiarism? Or is it possible that inadequate referencing can really be a lesser sort of offence?
plagiarism terminology
I am aware of a professor, who wrote two published books that had to be corrected. On the publisher's website it states that these two books had been corrected due to "inadequate referencing". Is inadequate referencing essentially a euphemism for plagiarism? Or is it possible that inadequate referencing can really be a lesser sort of offence?
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It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
4 hours ago
add a comment |
It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
4 hours ago
It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
4 hours ago
It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
4 hours ago
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I think that's a rather unkind interpretation of what happened here. Books aren't the same as research articles - especially for text books, it is par for the course that large swaths (most?) of the book are not actually about the author's own ideas.
Further, extremely detailed referencing can easily reduce the readability of the book, so oftentimes book authors are given a bit more leeway than what would be acceptable in a research article.
What I assumed happened here is that either some references are simply missing (as Solar Mike said), or that it has been later on determined that some parts of the book should really reference more explicitly where the respective content came from (either because the original author complained or because the book author decided that some more references would help a reader find additional information). I would not assume this to mean that the book author blatantly copied material from somewhere (this, presumably, would not lead to a correction but to withdrawing the entire book, because it also sounds like a copyright nightmare for the publisher).
1
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Perhaps the professor had included an incomplete bibliography in the first submitted version, so inline text references were there but not in the biblio...
Annoying for the professor, embarrassing possibly, but easily corrected, however, what it was I don't know.
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm guessing it's a euphemism for dubious content, rather than plagiarism.
While books should cite their sources, it is not necessary to cite every single fact. The book's author (who is an expert on the topic) will justify or prove most facts in the course of the discussion. It's good practice to include a bibliography showing relevant primary sources (e.g., for further reading); however, merely summarizing a published paper in a textbook does not necessarily require a citation (e.g., we do not cite Newton's papers in introductory physics books). Citations are really only needed when facts are asserted without being proven or justified through the narrative.
In this case, the word "inadequate" does make it seem that there was a problem. This could be a euphemism for plagiarism: word-for-word copying, or not meeting the publisher's standards in terms of referencing relevant work. Or, it could be that the author stated a lot of facts without justification or citation, and some of them turned out to be dubious or even wrong. That's my guess.
add a comment |
It is not mainly about "boasting" by lots of self-citing or "plagiarism" by omitted citation.
When it comes to academic papers citation is mainly about the trace-ability of research. Which ideas and hypotheses are related to each other as the research progresses. As with many types of work it is useful to find which points research split into different directions and which are merely increments of the same idea with adding some new ones.
Compare with software development, to have version control and be able to trace changes can be very valuable and save time and work. Allow to quickly navigate through the body of work. Kind of the same idea does the citation system have.
1
Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
2
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not thegit log
of research, it's thegit blame
)
– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
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I think that's a rather unkind interpretation of what happened here. Books aren't the same as research articles - especially for text books, it is par for the course that large swaths (most?) of the book are not actually about the author's own ideas.
Further, extremely detailed referencing can easily reduce the readability of the book, so oftentimes book authors are given a bit more leeway than what would be acceptable in a research article.
What I assumed happened here is that either some references are simply missing (as Solar Mike said), or that it has been later on determined that some parts of the book should really reference more explicitly where the respective content came from (either because the original author complained or because the book author decided that some more references would help a reader find additional information). I would not assume this to mean that the book author blatantly copied material from somewhere (this, presumably, would not lead to a correction but to withdrawing the entire book, because it also sounds like a copyright nightmare for the publisher).
1
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I think that's a rather unkind interpretation of what happened here. Books aren't the same as research articles - especially for text books, it is par for the course that large swaths (most?) of the book are not actually about the author's own ideas.
Further, extremely detailed referencing can easily reduce the readability of the book, so oftentimes book authors are given a bit more leeway than what would be acceptable in a research article.
What I assumed happened here is that either some references are simply missing (as Solar Mike said), or that it has been later on determined that some parts of the book should really reference more explicitly where the respective content came from (either because the original author complained or because the book author decided that some more references would help a reader find additional information). I would not assume this to mean that the book author blatantly copied material from somewhere (this, presumably, would not lead to a correction but to withdrawing the entire book, because it also sounds like a copyright nightmare for the publisher).
1
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I think that's a rather unkind interpretation of what happened here. Books aren't the same as research articles - especially for text books, it is par for the course that large swaths (most?) of the book are not actually about the author's own ideas.
Further, extremely detailed referencing can easily reduce the readability of the book, so oftentimes book authors are given a bit more leeway than what would be acceptable in a research article.
What I assumed happened here is that either some references are simply missing (as Solar Mike said), or that it has been later on determined that some parts of the book should really reference more explicitly where the respective content came from (either because the original author complained or because the book author decided that some more references would help a reader find additional information). I would not assume this to mean that the book author blatantly copied material from somewhere (this, presumably, would not lead to a correction but to withdrawing the entire book, because it also sounds like a copyright nightmare for the publisher).
I think that's a rather unkind interpretation of what happened here. Books aren't the same as research articles - especially for text books, it is par for the course that large swaths (most?) of the book are not actually about the author's own ideas.
Further, extremely detailed referencing can easily reduce the readability of the book, so oftentimes book authors are given a bit more leeway than what would be acceptable in a research article.
What I assumed happened here is that either some references are simply missing (as Solar Mike said), or that it has been later on determined that some parts of the book should really reference more explicitly where the respective content came from (either because the original author complained or because the book author decided that some more references would help a reader find additional information). I would not assume this to mean that the book author blatantly copied material from somewhere (this, presumably, would not lead to a correction but to withdrawing the entire book, because it also sounds like a copyright nightmare for the publisher).
answered 14 hours ago
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Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
1
1
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
Good point about providing the reader with more information - I came across an astonishing unreferenced assertion in an MA-level textbook a while back and still haven't been able to track down any information about where it comes from or what evidence exists that it's true.
– Robert Columbia
12 hours ago
2
2
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
I'm not sure I agree, here. The word "inadequate" implies that something was actually wrong before; if I wanted to describe a situation in which the author had woken up one morning and thought, "Hey, the referencing in chapter 6 is OK but it could use some extra references to help the reader along", I'd use words like "improved referencing".
– David Richerby
9 hours ago
1
1
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
I have to say, I am aware that the Professor was known to have a few problems with regards to sloppiness in citation practice. I'm not sure I buy the argument that in a textbook, it's kind of ok to be sloppy with citiations
– user1778351
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Perhaps the professor had included an incomplete bibliography in the first submitted version, so inline text references were there but not in the biblio...
Annoying for the professor, embarrassing possibly, but easily corrected, however, what it was I don't know.
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Perhaps the professor had included an incomplete bibliography in the first submitted version, so inline text references were there but not in the biblio...
Annoying for the professor, embarrassing possibly, but easily corrected, however, what it was I don't know.
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Perhaps the professor had included an incomplete bibliography in the first submitted version, so inline text references were there but not in the biblio...
Annoying for the professor, embarrassing possibly, but easily corrected, however, what it was I don't know.
Perhaps the professor had included an incomplete bibliography in the first submitted version, so inline text references were there but not in the biblio...
Annoying for the professor, embarrassing possibly, but easily corrected, however, what it was I don't know.
answered 15 hours ago
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What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
add a comment |
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
What you're describing is a simple clerical error. I doubt they'd use a term like "inadequate" to describe something like that.
– David Richerby
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm guessing it's a euphemism for dubious content, rather than plagiarism.
While books should cite their sources, it is not necessary to cite every single fact. The book's author (who is an expert on the topic) will justify or prove most facts in the course of the discussion. It's good practice to include a bibliography showing relevant primary sources (e.g., for further reading); however, merely summarizing a published paper in a textbook does not necessarily require a citation (e.g., we do not cite Newton's papers in introductory physics books). Citations are really only needed when facts are asserted without being proven or justified through the narrative.
In this case, the word "inadequate" does make it seem that there was a problem. This could be a euphemism for plagiarism: word-for-word copying, or not meeting the publisher's standards in terms of referencing relevant work. Or, it could be that the author stated a lot of facts without justification or citation, and some of them turned out to be dubious or even wrong. That's my guess.
add a comment |
I'm guessing it's a euphemism for dubious content, rather than plagiarism.
While books should cite their sources, it is not necessary to cite every single fact. The book's author (who is an expert on the topic) will justify or prove most facts in the course of the discussion. It's good practice to include a bibliography showing relevant primary sources (e.g., for further reading); however, merely summarizing a published paper in a textbook does not necessarily require a citation (e.g., we do not cite Newton's papers in introductory physics books). Citations are really only needed when facts are asserted without being proven or justified through the narrative.
In this case, the word "inadequate" does make it seem that there was a problem. This could be a euphemism for plagiarism: word-for-word copying, or not meeting the publisher's standards in terms of referencing relevant work. Or, it could be that the author stated a lot of facts without justification or citation, and some of them turned out to be dubious or even wrong. That's my guess.
add a comment |
I'm guessing it's a euphemism for dubious content, rather than plagiarism.
While books should cite their sources, it is not necessary to cite every single fact. The book's author (who is an expert on the topic) will justify or prove most facts in the course of the discussion. It's good practice to include a bibliography showing relevant primary sources (e.g., for further reading); however, merely summarizing a published paper in a textbook does not necessarily require a citation (e.g., we do not cite Newton's papers in introductory physics books). Citations are really only needed when facts are asserted without being proven or justified through the narrative.
In this case, the word "inadequate" does make it seem that there was a problem. This could be a euphemism for plagiarism: word-for-word copying, or not meeting the publisher's standards in terms of referencing relevant work. Or, it could be that the author stated a lot of facts without justification or citation, and some of them turned out to be dubious or even wrong. That's my guess.
I'm guessing it's a euphemism for dubious content, rather than plagiarism.
While books should cite their sources, it is not necessary to cite every single fact. The book's author (who is an expert on the topic) will justify or prove most facts in the course of the discussion. It's good practice to include a bibliography showing relevant primary sources (e.g., for further reading); however, merely summarizing a published paper in a textbook does not necessarily require a citation (e.g., we do not cite Newton's papers in introductory physics books). Citations are really only needed when facts are asserted without being proven or justified through the narrative.
In this case, the word "inadequate" does make it seem that there was a problem. This could be a euphemism for plagiarism: word-for-word copying, or not meeting the publisher's standards in terms of referencing relevant work. Or, it could be that the author stated a lot of facts without justification or citation, and some of them turned out to be dubious or even wrong. That's my guess.
answered 5 hours ago
cag51cag51
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It is not mainly about "boasting" by lots of self-citing or "plagiarism" by omitted citation.
When it comes to academic papers citation is mainly about the trace-ability of research. Which ideas and hypotheses are related to each other as the research progresses. As with many types of work it is useful to find which points research split into different directions and which are merely increments of the same idea with adding some new ones.
Compare with software development, to have version control and be able to trace changes can be very valuable and save time and work. Allow to quickly navigate through the body of work. Kind of the same idea does the citation system have.
1
Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
2
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not thegit log
of research, it's thegit blame
)
– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
add a comment |
It is not mainly about "boasting" by lots of self-citing or "plagiarism" by omitted citation.
When it comes to academic papers citation is mainly about the trace-ability of research. Which ideas and hypotheses are related to each other as the research progresses. As with many types of work it is useful to find which points research split into different directions and which are merely increments of the same idea with adding some new ones.
Compare with software development, to have version control and be able to trace changes can be very valuable and save time and work. Allow to quickly navigate through the body of work. Kind of the same idea does the citation system have.
1
Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
2
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not thegit log
of research, it's thegit blame
)
– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
add a comment |
It is not mainly about "boasting" by lots of self-citing or "plagiarism" by omitted citation.
When it comes to academic papers citation is mainly about the trace-ability of research. Which ideas and hypotheses are related to each other as the research progresses. As with many types of work it is useful to find which points research split into different directions and which are merely increments of the same idea with adding some new ones.
Compare with software development, to have version control and be able to trace changes can be very valuable and save time and work. Allow to quickly navigate through the body of work. Kind of the same idea does the citation system have.
It is not mainly about "boasting" by lots of self-citing or "plagiarism" by omitted citation.
When it comes to academic papers citation is mainly about the trace-ability of research. Which ideas and hypotheses are related to each other as the research progresses. As with many types of work it is useful to find which points research split into different directions and which are merely increments of the same idea with adding some new ones.
Compare with software development, to have version control and be able to trace changes can be very valuable and save time and work. Allow to quickly navigate through the body of work. Kind of the same idea does the citation system have.
answered 8 hours ago
mathreadlermathreadler
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Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
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Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not thegit log
of research, it's thegit blame
)
– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
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Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
2
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not thegit log
of research, it's thegit blame
)
– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
1
1
Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
Not sure I follow what this has to do with the question...the question is about a book, does not ask about self-citing, boasting, the traceability of research, or why citations are needed.
– cag51
8 hours ago
2
2
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not the
git log
of research, it's the git blame
)– Delioth
5 hours ago
Do you have a citation on citations in academic papers being mainly about tracing which ideas are related to each other and progression of hypotheses? Because from my view, citations are really about giving credit to other peoples' work and ideas (i.e. it's not the
git log
of research, it's the git blame
)– Delioth
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
Ok, then we have a different perspective. That is fine. In my philosophy you have list of authors for each paper (e.g. commit or even branch), that is the credit for the work done in paper. Citation is more like declaring where we branched off from when doing the work in this paper. Well, declaring which branches we started our branch from is automatically gonna point to the authors of the commits of that branch, no?
– mathreadler
5 hours ago
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It could be a matter of taste for the editor. I've had one editor tell me every single sentence should cite to some sort of support, and another that hated "Id" and "Ibid" and insisted those be left out. In my opinion, the sweet spot is in between.
– TimothyAWiseman
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