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How much propellant is used up until liftoff?


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    @uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
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    @OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
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How much of the total propellant mass (fuel+oxidizer) of the first stage/boosters is usually burnt between ignition and liftoff?






launch fuel efficiency







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  • $begingroup$
    two percent plus or minus one percent
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    16 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    14 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
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    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago













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How much of the total propellant mass (fuel+oxidizer) of the first stage/boosters is usually burnt between ignition and liftoff?






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How much of the total propellant mass (fuel+oxidizer) of the first stage/boosters is usually burnt between ignition and liftoff?






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    two percent plus or minus one percent
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    16 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    14 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    My wheelhouse is pretty narrow.
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    two percent plus or minus one percent
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    16 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
    $endgroup$
    – uhoh
    14 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    My wheelhouse is pretty narrow.
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    14 hours ago















$begingroup$
two percent plus or minus one percent
$endgroup$
– uhoh
16 hours ago




$begingroup$
two percent plus or minus one percent
$endgroup$
– uhoh
16 hours ago












$begingroup$
@uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
$endgroup$
– Organic Marble
14 hours ago




$begingroup$
@uhoh if my system used 3% of its prop sitting on the pad, I would be unhappy.
$endgroup$
– Organic Marble
14 hours ago












$begingroup$
@OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
14 hours ago





$begingroup$
@OrganicMarble we wouldn't want that. Are there any systems outside of my range? update: Oh, indeed there are!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
14 hours ago













$begingroup$
My wheelhouse is pretty narrow.
$endgroup$
– Organic Marble
14 hours ago




$begingroup$
My wheelhouse is pretty narrow.
$endgroup$
– Organic Marble
14 hours ago










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For the Space Shuttle:



Using the same approximate curves (with all their assumptions and limitations) used in the answer to How does the Space Shuttle's SSME engine's thrust vary after ignition?, we can integrate the SSME flowrates to get a startup propellant consumption of:



416 lbm LH2, 2246 lbm LO2 per engine,



and ~ 1248 lbm LH2, 6738 lbm LO2 for all three engines.



Since liftoff was virtually instantaneous after SRB ignition (certainly to the precision of these calculations) we can ignore SRB propellant usage preliftoff.



Using the ET loading numbers from Challenger disaster: how full was the external tank at the time of destruction? (LO2 1,387,457 lbm, LH2 234,265 lbm) we can calculate the % usage of ET propellant prior to liftoff as approximately 0.5% for both propellants.






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    The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
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$begingroup$

For the Space Shuttle:



Using the same approximate curves (with all their assumptions and limitations) used in the answer to How does the Space Shuttle's SSME engine's thrust vary after ignition?, we can integrate the SSME flowrates to get a startup propellant consumption of:



416 lbm LH2, 2246 lbm LO2 per engine,



and ~ 1248 lbm LH2, 6738 lbm LO2 for all three engines.



Since liftoff was virtually instantaneous after SRB ignition (certainly to the precision of these calculations) we can ignore SRB propellant usage preliftoff.



Using the ET loading numbers from Challenger disaster: how full was the external tank at the time of destruction? (LO2 1,387,457 lbm, LH2 234,265 lbm) we can calculate the % usage of ET propellant prior to liftoff as approximately 0.5% for both propellants.






share|improve this answer











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  • $begingroup$
    The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
    $endgroup$
    – Uwe
    15 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Uwe I was actually editing that into my answer as you were posting....
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    15 hours ago















11












$begingroup$

For the Space Shuttle:



Using the same approximate curves (with all their assumptions and limitations) used in the answer to How does the Space Shuttle's SSME engine's thrust vary after ignition?, we can integrate the SSME flowrates to get a startup propellant consumption of:



416 lbm LH2, 2246 lbm LO2 per engine,



and ~ 1248 lbm LH2, 6738 lbm LO2 for all three engines.



Since liftoff was virtually instantaneous after SRB ignition (certainly to the precision of these calculations) we can ignore SRB propellant usage preliftoff.



Using the ET loading numbers from Challenger disaster: how full was the external tank at the time of destruction? (LO2 1,387,457 lbm, LH2 234,265 lbm) we can calculate the % usage of ET propellant prior to liftoff as approximately 0.5% for both propellants.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
    $endgroup$
    – Uwe
    15 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Uwe I was actually editing that into my answer as you were posting....
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    15 hours ago













11












11








11





$begingroup$

For the Space Shuttle:



Using the same approximate curves (with all their assumptions and limitations) used in the answer to How does the Space Shuttle's SSME engine's thrust vary after ignition?, we can integrate the SSME flowrates to get a startup propellant consumption of:



416 lbm LH2, 2246 lbm LO2 per engine,



and ~ 1248 lbm LH2, 6738 lbm LO2 for all three engines.



Since liftoff was virtually instantaneous after SRB ignition (certainly to the precision of these calculations) we can ignore SRB propellant usage preliftoff.



Using the ET loading numbers from Challenger disaster: how full was the external tank at the time of destruction? (LO2 1,387,457 lbm, LH2 234,265 lbm) we can calculate the % usage of ET propellant prior to liftoff as approximately 0.5% for both propellants.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



For the Space Shuttle:



Using the same approximate curves (with all their assumptions and limitations) used in the answer to How does the Space Shuttle's SSME engine's thrust vary after ignition?, we can integrate the SSME flowrates to get a startup propellant consumption of:



416 lbm LH2, 2246 lbm LO2 per engine,



and ~ 1248 lbm LH2, 6738 lbm LO2 for all three engines.



Since liftoff was virtually instantaneous after SRB ignition (certainly to the precision of these calculations) we can ignore SRB propellant usage preliftoff.



Using the ET loading numbers from Challenger disaster: how full was the external tank at the time of destruction? (LO2 1,387,457 lbm, LH2 234,265 lbm) we can calculate the % usage of ET propellant prior to liftoff as approximately 0.5% for both propellants.







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    The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
    $endgroup$
    – Uwe
    15 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Uwe I was actually editing that into my answer as you were posting....
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
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  • $begingroup$
    The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
    $endgroup$
    – Uwe
    15 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Uwe I was actually editing that into my answer as you were posting....
    $endgroup$
    – Organic Marble
    15 hours ago















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The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
$endgroup$
– Uwe
15 hours ago




$begingroup$
The external tank is loaded with 1,387,457 lb of LOX and 234,265 lb of LH2. So only 0.5 % of LOX and also of LH2 are used before liftoff.
$endgroup$
– Uwe
15 hours ago












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@Uwe I was actually editing that into my answer as you were posting....
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