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Is there any sparring that doesn't involve punches to the head?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InPossible explanations for contradictory facts on headgear and brain damage?Start attacking instead of blocking while sparringAre punches that impact an eye dangerous? (Muay Thai)Would it be possible to mimic the knockout punch that Rex Layne received in 1951?Risk of brain damage in casual/moderate Muay Thai sparringIn MMA, should you try to block punches with your glove in the same way you could in Muay Thai?How to deal with an “anti-violence” instinct during sparring?How to deal with an excessively aggressive student that is turning people off sparring classes?Why is more time dedicated to exercises and very less for sparring? Is it for the fee?How to benefit from sparring that is a very poor match for my training?Reducing brain damage in sparring










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  • If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're worried about?

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    Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

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  • It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

    – Steve Weigand
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    Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

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  • It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

    – Steve Weigand
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  • If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're worried about?

    – Cort Ammon
    Apr 7 at 15:47






  • 1





    Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

    – kungfujim
    Apr 7 at 21:38











  • It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

    – Steve Weigand
    2 days ago

















  • If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're worried about?

    – Cort Ammon
    Apr 7 at 15:47






  • 1





    Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

    – kungfujim
    Apr 7 at 21:38











  • It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

    – Steve Weigand
    2 days ago
















If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're worried about?

– Cort Ammon
Apr 7 at 15:47





If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're worried about?

– Cort Ammon
Apr 7 at 15:47




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Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

– kungfujim
Apr 7 at 21:38





Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol

– kungfujim
Apr 7 at 21:38













It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

– Steve Weigand
2 days ago





It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it.

– Steve Weigand
2 days ago










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There are striking arts with precisely the rule set you describe. World Taekwondo allows kicks to the head but not punches to the head. Punches to the body are legal. This is the competition rules used in the Olympics.



From the World Taekwondo rules document WT Competition Rules & Interpretation (Hammamet 04052018):




Article 14 Prohibited acts and Penalties



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4 Prohibited acts



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4.1.8 Hitting the opponent’s head with the hand







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    No, it's not.



    You could pick up something that does not involve kicks or punches at all, like Judo or Sambo. Other alternatives are arts that typically do not involve actual hard sparring, like many styles of Kung Fu, Aikido or Karate. Jiu-Jitsu (not the Brazilian one) is usually pretty light on the sparring as well while still teaching you plenty of useful kicks and punches.



    Apart from this: Sparring in MA is usually not all that painful and you will not suffer regular brain concussion or anything, unless you go to a crazy gym. Also you will wear protective gear at pretty much any point in sparring where head strikes happen and usually in competitions on amateur level as well.



    Take a look at what happens at your local gyms and find something you are comfortable with. Personally I have gone through 20 years of various martial arts and suffered zero brain concussions and very little headaches so this stuff is definitely not mandatory.






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      Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

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    • Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

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    Kyokushin Karate is also well known for forbidding head punches.




    In most Kyokushin organizations, hand and elbow strikes to the head or neck are prohibited. However, kicks to the head, knee strikes, punches to the upper body, and kicks to the inner and outer leg are permitted.







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    • Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

      – Steve Weigand
      2 days ago


















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    With all things, it depends. Even in the arts above, and other arts that forbid punches to the head in a competitive aspect (ATA TKD also forbids hands to the head in competition, but allows kicks), many of them still teach hands to the head in self defense training.



    There is a difference between competition rules, and self defense instruction. By definition, almost any modern competition will restrict moves to some degree (Such as groin kicks. That is a near universal no-no). Self defense rules should really have no restrictions, other than what is needed to practice them safely. And, there are many schools that teach competition style only, and do not teach beyond that.



    So your best bet is to talk with your instructor about your concerns. However, even if it is allowed in training, it should be done in such a manner that it isn't a future health concern.






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      There are striking arts with precisely the rule set you describe. World Taekwondo allows kicks to the head but not punches to the head. Punches to the body are legal. This is the competition rules used in the Olympics.



      From the World Taekwondo rules document WT Competition Rules & Interpretation (Hammamet 04052018):




      Article 14 Prohibited acts and Penalties



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        There are striking arts with precisely the rule set you describe. World Taekwondo allows kicks to the head but not punches to the head. Punches to the body are legal. This is the competition rules used in the Olympics.



        From the World Taekwondo rules document WT Competition Rules & Interpretation (Hammamet 04052018):




        Article 14 Prohibited acts and Penalties



        ...



        4 Prohibited acts



        ...



        4.1.8 Hitting the opponent’s head with the hand







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          There are striking arts with precisely the rule set you describe. World Taekwondo allows kicks to the head but not punches to the head. Punches to the body are legal. This is the competition rules used in the Olympics.



          From the World Taekwondo rules document WT Competition Rules & Interpretation (Hammamet 04052018):




          Article 14 Prohibited acts and Penalties



          ...



          4 Prohibited acts



          ...



          4.1.8 Hitting the opponent’s head with the hand







          share|improve this answer















          There are striking arts with precisely the rule set you describe. World Taekwondo allows kicks to the head but not punches to the head. Punches to the body are legal. This is the competition rules used in the Olympics.



          From the World Taekwondo rules document WT Competition Rules & Interpretation (Hammamet 04052018):




          Article 14 Prohibited acts and Penalties



          ...



          4 Prohibited acts



          ...



          4.1.8 Hitting the opponent’s head with the hand








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              No, it's not.



              You could pick up something that does not involve kicks or punches at all, like Judo or Sambo. Other alternatives are arts that typically do not involve actual hard sparring, like many styles of Kung Fu, Aikido or Karate. Jiu-Jitsu (not the Brazilian one) is usually pretty light on the sparring as well while still teaching you plenty of useful kicks and punches.



              Apart from this: Sparring in MA is usually not all that painful and you will not suffer regular brain concussion or anything, unless you go to a crazy gym. Also you will wear protective gear at pretty much any point in sparring where head strikes happen and usually in competitions on amateur level as well.



              Take a look at what happens at your local gyms and find something you are comfortable with. Personally I have gone through 20 years of various martial arts and suffered zero brain concussions and very little headaches so this stuff is definitely not mandatory.






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                Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

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              • Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

                – Huw Evans
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              No, it's not.



              You could pick up something that does not involve kicks or punches at all, like Judo or Sambo. Other alternatives are arts that typically do not involve actual hard sparring, like many styles of Kung Fu, Aikido or Karate. Jiu-Jitsu (not the Brazilian one) is usually pretty light on the sparring as well while still teaching you plenty of useful kicks and punches.



              Apart from this: Sparring in MA is usually not all that painful and you will not suffer regular brain concussion or anything, unless you go to a crazy gym. Also you will wear protective gear at pretty much any point in sparring where head strikes happen and usually in competitions on amateur level as well.



              Take a look at what happens at your local gyms and find something you are comfortable with. Personally I have gone through 20 years of various martial arts and suffered zero brain concussions and very little headaches so this stuff is definitely not mandatory.






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                Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

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              • Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

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              No, it's not.



              You could pick up something that does not involve kicks or punches at all, like Judo or Sambo. Other alternatives are arts that typically do not involve actual hard sparring, like many styles of Kung Fu, Aikido or Karate. Jiu-Jitsu (not the Brazilian one) is usually pretty light on the sparring as well while still teaching you plenty of useful kicks and punches.



              Apart from this: Sparring in MA is usually not all that painful and you will not suffer regular brain concussion or anything, unless you go to a crazy gym. Also you will wear protective gear at pretty much any point in sparring where head strikes happen and usually in competitions on amateur level as well.



              Take a look at what happens at your local gyms and find something you are comfortable with. Personally I have gone through 20 years of various martial arts and suffered zero brain concussions and very little headaches so this stuff is definitely not mandatory.






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              No, it's not.



              You could pick up something that does not involve kicks or punches at all, like Judo or Sambo. Other alternatives are arts that typically do not involve actual hard sparring, like many styles of Kung Fu, Aikido or Karate. Jiu-Jitsu (not the Brazilian one) is usually pretty light on the sparring as well while still teaching you plenty of useful kicks and punches.



              Apart from this: Sparring in MA is usually not all that painful and you will not suffer regular brain concussion or anything, unless you go to a crazy gym. Also you will wear protective gear at pretty much any point in sparring where head strikes happen and usually in competitions on amateur level as well.



              Take a look at what happens at your local gyms and find something you are comfortable with. Personally I have gone through 20 years of various martial arts and suffered zero brain concussions and very little headaches so this stuff is definitely not mandatory.







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                Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

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              • Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

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                Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

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              • Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

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                yesterday







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              Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

              – mattm
              Apr 7 at 11:57





              Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961.

              – mattm
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              Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

              – Huw Evans
              yesterday





              Depends on the headgear. We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet. I am pretty sure this helps.

              – Huw Evans
              yesterday











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              Kyokushin Karate is also well known for forbidding head punches.




              In most Kyokushin organizations, hand and elbow strikes to the head or neck are prohibited. However, kicks to the head, knee strikes, punches to the upper body, and kicks to the inner and outer leg are permitted.







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              • Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

                – Steve Weigand
                2 days ago















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              Kyokushin Karate is also well known for forbidding head punches.




              In most Kyokushin organizations, hand and elbow strikes to the head or neck are prohibited. However, kicks to the head, knee strikes, punches to the upper body, and kicks to the inner and outer leg are permitted.







              share|improve this answer























              • Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

                – Steve Weigand
                2 days ago













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              Kyokushin Karate is also well known for forbidding head punches.




              In most Kyokushin organizations, hand and elbow strikes to the head or neck are prohibited. However, kicks to the head, knee strikes, punches to the upper body, and kicks to the inner and outer leg are permitted.







              share|improve this answer













              Kyokushin Karate is also well known for forbidding head punches.




              In most Kyokushin organizations, hand and elbow strikes to the head or neck are prohibited. However, kicks to the head, knee strikes, punches to the upper body, and kicks to the inner and outer leg are permitted.








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              • Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

                – Steve Weigand
                2 days ago

















              • Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

                – Steve Weigand
                2 days ago
















              Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

              – Steve Weigand
              2 days ago





              Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the "no punches to the head" rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that.

              – Steve Weigand
              2 days ago











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              With all things, it depends. Even in the arts above, and other arts that forbid punches to the head in a competitive aspect (ATA TKD also forbids hands to the head in competition, but allows kicks), many of them still teach hands to the head in self defense training.



              There is a difference between competition rules, and self defense instruction. By definition, almost any modern competition will restrict moves to some degree (Such as groin kicks. That is a near universal no-no). Self defense rules should really have no restrictions, other than what is needed to practice them safely. And, there are many schools that teach competition style only, and do not teach beyond that.



              So your best bet is to talk with your instructor about your concerns. However, even if it is allowed in training, it should be done in such a manner that it isn't a future health concern.






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                With all things, it depends. Even in the arts above, and other arts that forbid punches to the head in a competitive aspect (ATA TKD also forbids hands to the head in competition, but allows kicks), many of them still teach hands to the head in self defense training.



                There is a difference between competition rules, and self defense instruction. By definition, almost any modern competition will restrict moves to some degree (Such as groin kicks. That is a near universal no-no). Self defense rules should really have no restrictions, other than what is needed to practice them safely. And, there are many schools that teach competition style only, and do not teach beyond that.



                So your best bet is to talk with your instructor about your concerns. However, even if it is allowed in training, it should be done in such a manner that it isn't a future health concern.






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                  With all things, it depends. Even in the arts above, and other arts that forbid punches to the head in a competitive aspect (ATA TKD also forbids hands to the head in competition, but allows kicks), many of them still teach hands to the head in self defense training.



                  There is a difference between competition rules, and self defense instruction. By definition, almost any modern competition will restrict moves to some degree (Such as groin kicks. That is a near universal no-no). Self defense rules should really have no restrictions, other than what is needed to practice them safely. And, there are many schools that teach competition style only, and do not teach beyond that.



                  So your best bet is to talk with your instructor about your concerns. However, even if it is allowed in training, it should be done in such a manner that it isn't a future health concern.






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                  With all things, it depends. Even in the arts above, and other arts that forbid punches to the head in a competitive aspect (ATA TKD also forbids hands to the head in competition, but allows kicks), many of them still teach hands to the head in self defense training.



                  There is a difference between competition rules, and self defense instruction. By definition, almost any modern competition will restrict moves to some degree (Such as groin kicks. That is a near universal no-no). Self defense rules should really have no restrictions, other than what is needed to practice them safely. And, there are many schools that teach competition style only, and do not teach beyond that.



                  So your best bet is to talk with your instructor about your concerns. However, even if it is allowed in training, it should be done in such a manner that it isn't a future health concern.







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